[identity profile] paft.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] talkpolitics
Back in 2009, there was a slight flurry on the Internet over an online game – “2011: Obama’s Coup Fails.” It was (and apparently, still is,) a right wing gamer’s wet dream narrated with “future” news stories that include Ted Nugent attacking an ACORN youth rally: “the children were spared but all others were slaughtered…”

Now that 2011 is winding down without Obama dissolving the legislative branch of government, declaring himself “the last Imam” and executing Glenn Beck, it’s interesting to note that the closest thing to Ted Nugent’s imaginary conservative attack on a youth group took place in Norway and did not involve sparing the children.

The same fan base that enjoy “Obama’s Coup Fails” may be lured away by a more up-to-date, gripping and upscale roleplaying games that looks like it could fulfill their “kill-the-progressives” needs. Judging from two of the trailers, “Tom Clancy’s Rainbow 6 Patriots” depicts bloodthirsty American domestic terrorists echoing OWS rhetoric before doing things like strapping a bomb to a CEO and hurling him out of a skyscraper window.

“You really had to cash in on everyone else getting foreclosed, didn’t you?’” asks another terrorist before pointing a knife at the player character’s bound and gagged wife and threatening to “field dress her like a deer.”

In real life OWS has so far been the target rather than the perpetrator of violence, what with demonstrators being pepper-sprayed, beaten, thrown in jail, etc.

Looks like an interesting game. I’m curious about whether at any point it deals with an existing example of domestic terrorism in this country – anti-abortion bombings, assaults and homicides.

Crossposted from Thoughtcrimes

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Date: 21/12/11 22:31 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] underlankers.livejournal.com
So I assume you agree with the UN Human Rights commission that playing violent video games is a war crime?

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Date: 21/12/11 23:57 (UTC)
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It's possible that I'm thinking of another human rights commission entirely, but wasn't that more about how they were interested in seeing war-based video games that take into consideration things like certain actions counting as war crimes toward the player character?

Sorta like how LA Noire penalized you if you went about running over innocent civilians and you were given a lower score for driving recklessly, as opposed to how those actions are normally encouraged in a game like GTA or Saint's Row.

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Date: 22/12/11 16:49 (UTC)
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Come on. It's the Red Cross that wanted to claim that playing video games is a war crime. They never prosecuted under that belief. The UN Human Rights Commission never condemned violent video games.

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Date: 21/12/11 22:34 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] montecristo.livejournal.com
Do you have a point to make, or a question to raise or is this just a few paragraphs meant to insinuate that there is some despicable group that has a monopoly on violent fantasies and games in dubious taste? Suppose people started posting comments quoting historical "progressives" that featured those progressives' own forms of bloodthirst and exterminationist fantasies?

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Date: 21/12/11 22:39 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] underlankers.livejournal.com
I assume by progressive you're not referring to Teddy Roosevelt and Woodrow Wilson and W.H. Taft here.

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Date: 22/12/11 01:45 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mrbogey.livejournal.com
You see when a game is made where the right-wingers are violent sycophants it's because right-wingers are violent sycophants and the game enacts their fantasies.

When a game has violent left-wingers it's a smear on their good name.

Was it obvious only to me?

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Date: 21/12/11 22:43 (UTC)
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And it is a video game...

I am not seeing a reason for outrage.

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Date: 21/12/11 22:49 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] korean-guy-01.livejournal.com
Videogames, where's the realism?

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Date: 22/12/11 08:34 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ddstory.livejournal.com
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Video_game_controversy#Publicized_incidents

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Date: 21/12/11 22:52 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] paedraggaidin.livejournal.com
Stupid brainless violent video games are stupid...as are the people who indulge in such mindlessly bloody fantasies. (No offense to the gamers here, I don't mean normal games.)

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Date: 21/12/11 23:35 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] notmrgarrison.livejournal.com
I'm sure some of these can be dismissed, I doubt all of them can: http://www.punditpress.com/2011/10/compilation-40-examples-of-ows-violence.html


Then there was the "peaceful" Davis protestors who surrounded the police and chanted "Set them free and we'll let you go". Totally peaceful. "Fuck the police from Davis to Greece" was a nice added touch.

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I'm always impressed that the conservative groups that tend to embrace the historical importance of the 2nd Amendment in order to justify why everyone should have guns on them 24/7 if they choose to do so also get the vapors anytime someone [liberal/progressive/centrist] is openly protesting or disgruntled/hostile toward authority.

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Date: 22/12/11 03:26 (UTC)
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I've got a question for you:

why are there pictures of europe in that mix?
OWS isn't european, it's distinctly american--even if it borrows the tactic (occupying public spaces) that came from the middle east, OWS isn't in europe, and the pics there from europe show just how hard the right wing wants to kill this.

they'll take pics from another continent and use it to slam people in NYC or Boston...

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Date: 22/12/11 03:28 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] enders-shadow.livejournal.com
to be fair, the 99% includes most people who commit terrorism.

the 1% have military's that wage wars. those dont count as terrorist acts.

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Date: 22/12/11 04:02 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jerseycajun.livejournal.com
Could you possibly give us an idea of what issues/questions you'd like us to discuss pertaining to the game and OWS? (Free speech? Double standards? What should be done about it?) Leaving it fairly open-ended as it is, is only an invitation for us to fill it in ourselves, probably to your own dissatisfaction.

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Date: 22/12/11 04:38 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] geezer-also.livejournal.com
Bingo!

(See that's the trick, if nothing is stated, whatever you infer, can be wrong :D)

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Date: 22/12/11 07:25 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kardashev.livejournal.com
Hell, this is the one thing I actually respect about the extreme right. Not so much their hatred or their desire to be the only game in town. But the fact that they're smashmouth honest about it.

The hard left? Kinda sneaky about such desires, even though they have them too.

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Date: 22/12/11 16:14 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] telemann.livejournal.com
LOL. Oooo the LULZ.

Sneaky lefties.

HOooOo cliche.

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Date: 22/12/11 08:02 (UTC)
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I don't understand what this topic is about. Like, what is supposed to be discussed?

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Date: 22/12/11 11:41 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dreadfulpenny81.livejournal.com
Nothing. This is PAFT's usually brand of anti-right-wing vitriol.

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Date: 22/12/11 11:40 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dreadfulpenny81.livejournal.com
In real life OWS has so far been the target rather than the perpetrator of violence... - LMAO

If you say so...

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Date: 22/12/11 13:46 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mylaptopisevil.livejournal.com
Didn't see all those police response videos, huh.

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Talk Politics.

A place to discuss politics without egomaniacal mods

DAILY QUOTE:
"The NATO charter clearly says that any attack on a NATO member shall be treated, by all members, as an attack against all. So that means that, if we attack Greenland, we'll be obligated to go to war against ... ourselves! Gee, that's scary. You really don't want to go to war with the United States. They're insane!"

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