talkpolitics | A Final Solution to the Problem of Religion

We have to rid the world of Judaism. Judaism is based on the stupid notion that some particular god exists. We know that this cannot be the case, because we can detect everything that exists with our senses and/or the various devices we build for detecting things. Also, if the god the Jews made up existed, it would never have allowed Hitler to kill so many of them. As a matter of fact, if there was a god, nobody would ever die—because no real god would have ever allowed any life to end. Ever.

Also, we can appropriately hold Judaism responsible for the emergence of those other two horrific belief-systems: Christianity and Islam. Christianity is responsible for more wars than any other belief-system ever in history. And believing in Islam makes you blow yourself up to get imaginary girls in the next life. So we should nip Judaism in the bud before it creates some other disastrous belief-system—like one that makes you want to get as much money as you can in life no matter how it affects others. If that ever happened, the world would be screwed.

Please understand that I am not advocating the execution of Jews themselves. Instead, I am saying that we should become more diligent and aggressive about making sure everyone knows that Judaism is a delusional and destructive belief-system that no decent, rational person would ever accept. If we can teach this in our schools, if we can get our message out through the media, if we will not be ashamed to state these obvious truths in our daily social conversations, we might be able to eliminate the cancer of Judaism from human discourse within a generation or two.

Now I know there are those of you who are going to claim that Judaism is not entirely bad. After all, Hendrix couldn’t have recorded “All Along the Watchtower” if a Jew hadn’t written it first—and we all have a soft spot for at least one Seinfeld episode. But Judaism, as the root-cause of Western monotheism, must be viewed on balance as perhaps the greatest single evil ever foisted on humanity by a tribe of superstitious, bloodthirsty savages.

So who among you is willing to step up to the plate? Or do you want to go on pretending to be rational people—even as you continue to tolerate this singularly pernicious crime against reason itself?

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By the way, my suggestion that you chill out was in no way evidence that I made my post simply to upset anyone.

Except that you DIDN'T suggest that I "chill out." NOWHERE in your comments to me did you EVER type those words. Instead, you expressed your AMUSEMENT over how much I was "freaking out," in response to a PM in which I specifically asked you what your goals were in engaging in this line of discussion. There is NO OTHER POSSIBLE WAY to interpret your statement.

I am, however, glad that we have been able to demonstrate once again that it is religious people who are irrational and full of venom -- while those who rise above religion inexorably assume the role of rational peacemakers.

What a typical response for a privileged person — you do everything possible to intentionally and repeatedly misinterpret and misrepresent my point of view, no matter how many times I attempt to clarify my position in good faith, and then, when I ask you POINT BLANK what the point of what you're doing is, you "LOL" over the fact that I'm "freaking out," and THEN, when I FINALLY let my last shred of civility drop, in response to you ADMITTING that you're purposefully engaging in bad-faith arguments, you trot out the tired old refrain of "Oh, you're just too IRRATIONAL and EMOTIONAL for me to respond to as though you're an adult," as if you'd been acting like anything even remotely approaching a logical or moral human being toward me at any prior point in this discussion.

THIS is the playbook that you just followed. (http://www.derailingfordummies.com/)

And yes, not only do your multiple logical fallacies prove how irrational you are, but your deliberate attempts to mischaracterize my arguments, coupled with your admission that you were only doing so to provoke my ire, likewise proves that you were acting on enough malicious intent to qualify as being "full of venom," even if it does keep manifesting itself in such a cowardly passive-aggressive fashion.

your deliberate attempts to mischaracterize my arguments

Where did I mischaracterize your arguments?

Where did I mischaracterize your arguments?

You did so every single time you asserted that my responses were irrelevant tangents that did not relate to the topic at hand, even after I pointed out repeatedly how they were indivisibly linked to the topic at hand, and every single time you claimed that I had "declined" to answer your question, even after I had done so in exhaustive detail.

Someone telling you that an atheist can't be a patriot is not an argument about whether there should be Jews.

Except for how I already REPEATEDLY pointed out how those two issues are linked, along with any number of OTHER points which you STILL refuse to acknowledge, because they don't fit your "narrative." To which I say, FUCK your narrative, because the most basic aspects of how you see the world are so logically and MORALLY wrong to my eyes that I will NEVER agree with them, or even respect their EXISTENCE.

No, you have not pointed out how someone making some ridiculous statement about atheists not being able to be patriots is at all related to whether there should be Jews in the world. You simply asserted it.

Why are you worried about whether someone thinks you are a patriot or not, anyway?

Yes, I did. Go back and read my post. I repeatedly pointed out that it is an example of the religious privilege that religious people have over non-religious people, that it is considered societally acceptable. Of course, even though you keep coming back to that individual example far more times than I ever originally mentioned it, I also pointed out, in SEVERAL posts, several OTHER examples of the undue influence of religion in non-religious people's lives, including the fact that global political decisions are made based on people's religions, a point to which you STILL haven't replied, because you find it more convenient to harp on the ONE point that I made while IGNORING all the others, because you KNOW FOR A FACT that you are wrong.

Why are you worried about whether someone thinks you are a patriot or not, anyway?

Because I have the right to be considered a patriot regardless of what my religion is or isn't, without people dismissing it simply because I don't subscribe to their faith. This is a privilege that members of certain religions receive automatically, without ever even having to think about it. That is an inequity, and a relatively minor one compared to some of the other unequal treatment to which the non-religious (and those whose religions are not in the majority) are regularly subjected.

Because I have the right to be considered a patriot regardless of what my religion is or isn't, without people dismissing it simply because I don't subscribe to their faith.

No, that's actually not a right. People are free to think you're Napoleon. Your rights do not extend to other people's thoughts. People may be stupid to link one's patriotism to one's theological position, but they have a right to be that stupid.

I am a genius. I do not have a right to be thought of as a genius even though people think I can't be one by virtue of my faith.

You're never going to win this argument, by the way.

I will keep on arguing, because literally everything about how you see this issue contradicts my perception of reality and offends my morals.

There is no possible common ground to be achieved between us on this issue.

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