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talkpolitics2011-07-10 03:31 pm
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Middle class, multi-culti left-wing pricks...
Exactly!
Both UK and US are suffering simply because their media is occupied with those blind mid-class idiots.
Friend of mine says there is another side of medal: FOXnews in the US, which is pro-right media, and having highest ratings among News channels...
Also, I think the common problem nowadays in all developed countries, that they're trying hard to keep their own identity (hello, Brits), at same time being over-flooded with immigrants of many nations.
Simply don't go too much Left promoting PCness and giving your pensions to illegal immigrants, and don't go too much Right closing borders(hi, Brits) and focusing on internal affairs and nationalism (becoming, in fact, blind to outer world)
the Truth is somewhere in the middle...
What do you think?
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You REALLY cant hear the tone of the video which is what I speak to directly?
really? REALLY??
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Keep on pretending...
But what is *really* interesting is that you read past an entire transcript of inflamatory rhethoric... to focus on whether this one video was as racist as anything else seen in the past...
and if you REALLY want to talk about the type of videos that really get people's ire up - here's one for you:
Go ahead and give me the transcript for this...
Re: Keep on pretending...
My original comment was about about how that one video raises an interesting point. You replied "Did you listen to the video at the top?"
And it's amusing because the guy said "...who are all too eager to curtail free speech and suppress inconvenient ideas by misrepresenting them as bigotry and racism".
And here you are doing as such.
There's a difference between being stubborn and being full of convictions. Learn the difference.
Re: Keep on pretending...
First, my original comment was not limited to just this one - but nice of you to pretend it was.
Second, my original comment was limited to *HOW* things were said (it's even the first sentence) with race being just one example.
As per usual you focus on *one* point and pretend that is the sum-total of what was said.
You do a WONDERFUL job of confusing a tree for the forest.... and willful misreading of what was said.
But anyone who can read past an entire transacript of inflamatory rhethoric, to argue it wasnt as racist as it could be, and *therefore* there is nothing to complain about.....
Well, that's just bad reasoning all the way around.
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And I never said this video wasn't as racist as it could have been. There was no racism at all in the video.
You have a penchant for not understanding what you're listening to, reading, or being told. Have you been tested for a learning disability? Totally serious.
Re: Keep on pretending...
Luckily, I'm not the only one who recognizes your "reasoning" (and I use the word loosely where you're concerned).... lacks.
But then again between this, your history of revisionism, and your *profound* ability to read an article of rhethoric and say "I dont see anything in there"...
Seriously dude... were your parents related?
Re: Keep on pretending...
I've provided direct evidence in this thread of you not understanding what you're being told.
You've made grand and bold claims but failed to construct anything that could be considered a coherent argument.
Re: Keep on pretending...
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You really don't see how your perception is self-reinforcing? He didn't say anything hateful about anyone. He didn't say what Chessdev asserted he said and actually stated in much the way what Chessdev asserted would be a constructive way to broach the issue. He stated there are problems in the Islamic community with radicalism and that any attempt to deal with them is regarded as radical hate speech with comparisons to Nazism.
And here you are doing exactly what he said you'd do when he didn't say anything racist.
And you assert I'm the one wearing the blinders?
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of what I meant as "constructive way to broach an issue"....
then you REALLY really have no idea of a few basic but important
concepts like:
TONE
CONNOTATION
RHETORIC
PROPAGANDA
You seem to basically do spell-checks and word counts to somehow go "He never SAID that" while ignoring that actually *yes* he did, although in a way that was apparently too subtle for you.
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I guess you relistened to it for examples and found nothing.
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First, TONE is exactly what I spoke to.
Reading comprehension - try it.
Second, "found nothing"??
That video was nothing BUT what I was talking about.
Sheesh
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The Islamic fanatics who are such a nuisance in the West wouldn't be half the problem they are without the complicity of the multicultural metropolitan middle-class left[MMMCL]; who are all too eager to curtail free speech and suppress inconvenient ideas by misrepresenting them as bigotry and racism. Here in Britain we've known for some time that the BBC's reputation for impartial news reporting has been pretty much destroyed by this kind of political correctness.
The truth is no longer sacred to the BBC. It's now seen as a problem to be navigated around with euphemism as in the case of Islamic terrorism or simply dismissed with crude like "far right" when it comes to political views the BBC disapproves of. Recently for example Gert Wilders was acquitted by a court in Amsterdam but not it seems by the BBC; who I notice still insists on referring to him as a far right politician which is such an outrageous slur it ought to be actionable.
Nazis and racists are right-wing. Anyone would think they were talking about Hitler. You really have to wonder how some of these people have the nerve to call themselves journalists.
Millions of people trust the BBC as a source of impartiality and truth yet according to the BBC website the Dutch people have elected someone who is on a par with a Nazi to help govern them. The words "far right" appear in the very first sentence of the report telling the reader straight away "this is someone we disapprove of and we suggest this is someone you should disapprove of as well and you know you can trust us; we're the BBC".
Except that we can't trust the BBC. Those days have gone. We can't trust the BBC to look at a thing impartially and tell the simple truth because the truth is the BBC is no longer an impartial organization. It now has a cultural and political agenda because it's full to the rafters with MMMCLW pricks or what we in Britain call Guardianistas. People who see their mirror image in the Guardian newspaper which lives and breathes multiculturalism, diversity and all things MCLW prick and where the BBC advertises for its multi-culti middle-class staff.
The Guardian is such a biased MMLW rag it could be Swedish and in newspaper terms it doesn't get any more damning than that. As well as being an open platform for Hamas propaganda, the Guardian is the natural home for the "terminally tolerant". It's characterized by a smug and patronizing political correctness that by default blames Western society and especially America for everything that's wrong with this world. It's the paper of choice for relativist whackos like feminists who defend female genital mutilation on cultural grounds; or who endorse the Islamic veil as a symbol of female empowerment. It's for people who know some perfectly normal decent Muslims and therefore Islam can't possibly be a threat to anybody; and anyone who says it is is being unhelpful and should be silenced. It's for people who are passionate about diversity even though they went to the same Universities, read the same books, and have the same dopey opinions about everything. And it's for people who just love the Palestinians because it gives them a chance to be anti-Semitic without offending left-wing Jews.
The Guardian and the BBC are both pillars of British MMMLW prick-ocracy whose days are numbered. People are getting tired of being made to feel like criminals for holding the wrong opinion and there's a massive backlash coming against political correctness. Especially when all those young people who are having it rammed down their throats by MCLW pricks in universities all over the Western world finally grow up and start thinking for themselves. It'll be like getting rid of lead poisoning.
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and please don't forget to include the last minute or 2 of the video as well...you know 5:15 onward...
as long as you're going to bring out transacripts, let's not leave things out...
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Ignore an inflamatory video content, to argue it wasnt as racist (in your opinion) as it could be, and *therefore* there was nothing wrong with how things were said (again, my point and first sentence)....
Tree = Forest in your world. Arguing a single point AS the whole of the discussion? How nice for you...
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Check.
*ignoring that you stated specifically "this video"*
Check.
*Make up something I said*
Check.
Well you're certainly good at keeping par.
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You focused on "this video" AFTER I made the more general point which you disagreed with as well.
So now your claiming I did something I didn't.
You're (again) conveniently "remembering" the conversation and picking-choosing what was said without remembering what led up to it...
And again -- you keep pretending that *race* was the only thing I was talking about; Maybe it's all your mind could hold onto at one time... but I said CLEARLY:
it's *HOW* things are said
So long as you keep pretending that only 1 thing was being discussed, that a tree = a forest, and 1 point is the sum total of the conversation...
Well, then you'll understand why some of us think you may need to increase your ginseng intake.
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Meanwhile the Guardians politics are its own business. It's a private company and nobody is forced to buy the wretched thing. But the BBC is a publicly funded national broadcaster; funded moreover by an indiscriminate poll tax that hits the poorest hardest. It has a duty to reflect the views and the values of everyone it purports to serve and not just the views and values of the MMCLW pricks who just so happen to work there. It also has a duty to the public to tell the simple truth, unvarnished with bias and spin. We can get that anywhere else, thank you very much. We pay for the BBC and we deserve better.
We also deserve a better democracy and on a lighter note I might as well tell you of another example we had of the patronizing and condescending nature of the whole MCLW prick mentality. A couple months ago we had a referendum here in Britain to decide whether we should change the voting system. The proposed system although by no means perfect would be more proportional; it drew support from a fairly wide political spectrum. And some very effective speakers from all shades of opinion could have been used to front the campaign and help it connect with people. Unfortunately the campaign was organized by a bunch of MCLW pricks who arrogantly declined to draw upon that support because they disapproved of some of the viewpoints so as a result they blew the whole gig for everyone. The people they did choose to front the campaign were all MCLW pricks like themselves; actors and other personalities in the media and the arts; people who inhabit a self-regarding bubble of advanced MCLW prickery and have no idea how despised their opinions really are.
Well they found out. We all found out.
A few places known for their heavy concentration of MCLW pricks voted for the change. And everybody else outside the bubble voted against. So now we're stuck with the old system permanently because the chances of getting another referendum are about as likely as finding fur on a fish or getting unbiased news from the MCLW pricks at the Guardian or the BBC.
Peace... and all that middle class jazz.
I made a transcript of the video. AS you can clearly see he doesn't say anything like what you claim. In fact he makes a point of exactly how you'd do exactly what you'd do.
I'm upset that I had to waste so much time making a transcript for a youtube video that you shamelessly lied about when it is so easy for you to not actually lie and deal with the facts.
At no point does he launch into anything racist. You've completely embarrassed yourself and failed. Have some shame.
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