ext_209521 ([identity profile] kinvore.livejournal.com) wrote in [community profile] talkpolitics2011-02-22 07:54 pm

Shawna Forde gets death penalty

http://www.cnn.com/2011/CRIME/02/22/arizona.double.killing/?hpt=T2

I don't advocate the death penalty but I shed no tears for this woman. Here's the crux of the story: an anti-immigrant militant attacked a Latino family, killing the father and 9-year-old daughter (as she begged for her life), and shooting the mother who only survived because she pretended to die from the gunshot.

The murderers thought the father was a drug dealer and they wanted his money to finance their budding hate group. I guess that would have been a nifty recruiting tool for extremists, their willingness to kill Mexicans to get things done. Nevermind the fact that the victims were American-born citizens, such details are irrelevant when racial bigotry is concerned.

This is the sort of thing that happens when you fan the flames of hatred, dehumanization is the predecessor to atrocity. I'm surprised this didn't get more attention from the mainstream media, I guess they aren't as liberal as so many seem to think.

[identity profile] ellistrae.livejournal.com 2011-02-23 04:32 pm (UTC)(link)
I admit, I am curious how you can be "friends" with a psychopath. If they do not feel emotion, would their friendship be a somewhat hollow thing? I love my friends, and I would like to think that the feeling is returned. This would not be the case with your friend, right? I am more intrigued by the idea than I probably should be LOL.

[identity profile] kawaiimamimi.livejournal.com 2011-02-23 08:55 pm (UTC)(link)
Well. More than anything it's neurochemical. There have been a few people in his life that make him calmer when he is around them. He says that he perceives it almost like feeling happy. I am one of those few people. His wife is another. We used to be lovers. He says that the few people he's met in his life that make him feel that way all smelled the same, so he thinks it's neurochemical.

As far as our friendship... it is a very interesting thing. Certainly an experience like no other I've ever had. I know that I am one of the few people he is willing to go out of his way to help or do things for. He sees other people like furniture or television, to manipulate as he so chooses or to destroy if he so chooses.

He actually puts my feelings ahead of his, which is a sign of how much he actually enjoys having me around. It is still more of a selfish, calculated thing. He does nice things for me so I will stay near him and give him what he wants. He is not selfless. And I never forget that, ever. I never give his actions the benefit of the doubt, because he told me not to.

It is a very interesting friendship at any rate. I can't help but love him. :)

[identity profile] mrsilence.livejournal.com 2011-02-23 10:55 pm (UTC)(link)
Sounds awfully self-diagnosed to me...if you know what I mean.

[identity profile] kawaiimamimi.livejournal.com 2011-02-23 11:00 pm (UTC)(link)
Hahaha, if you've made up your mind so thoroughly, then of course I can not prove it to you. This si the internet. But I don't really care because I know I am right and if you ever met him, God forbid for your sake, then you would know to.

[identity profile] mrsilence.livejournal.com 2011-02-23 11:06 pm (UTC)(link)
Interestingly enough, I was expecting to have to tell you that I wasn't interesting in debating if you were right or wrong because neither of us is ever going to prove the other wrong.

I can only go on what my own experience tells me about people and situations like those you described. *shrug*