ext_209521 ([identity profile] kinvore.livejournal.com) wrote in [community profile] talkpolitics2011-02-22 07:54 pm

Shawna Forde gets death penalty

http://www.cnn.com/2011/CRIME/02/22/arizona.double.killing/?hpt=T2

I don't advocate the death penalty but I shed no tears for this woman. Here's the crux of the story: an anti-immigrant militant attacked a Latino family, killing the father and 9-year-old daughter (as she begged for her life), and shooting the mother who only survived because she pretended to die from the gunshot.

The murderers thought the father was a drug dealer and they wanted his money to finance their budding hate group. I guess that would have been a nifty recruiting tool for extremists, their willingness to kill Mexicans to get things done. Nevermind the fact that the victims were American-born citizens, such details are irrelevant when racial bigotry is concerned.

This is the sort of thing that happens when you fan the flames of hatred, dehumanization is the predecessor to atrocity. I'm surprised this didn't get more attention from the mainstream media, I guess they aren't as liberal as so many seem to think.

[identity profile] mrsilence.livejournal.com 2011-02-23 05:12 am (UTC)(link)
Well that is what I am talking about. You admit that we don't know if its possible.

I'm saying that if we are executing people because at present they are not practical to cure, we're not trying hard enough to find out.

[identity profile] anosognosia.livejournal.com 2011-02-24 03:09 am (UTC)(link)
I've had excellent results working with psychopaths, as have all my colleagues who've worked with them, and consistent with the literature on this going back fifty years.

Do you have some compelling reason why we should believe these results are accidental and this literature incorrect?

Our prison systems don't have any meaningful orientation toward rehabilitation, so pointing out how poorly they rehabilitate doesn't really tell us anything about the promise of rehabilitation were it attempted.