Shawna Forde gets death penalty

[kinvore.livejournal.com]

http://www.cnn.com/2011/CRIME/02/22/arizona.double.killing/?hpt=T2

I don't advocate the death penalty but I shed no tears for this woman. Here's the crux of the story: an anti-immigrant militant attacked a Latino family, killing the father and 9-year-old daughter (as she begged for her life), and shooting the mother who only survived because she pretended to die from the gunshot.

The murderers thought the father was a drug dealer and they wanted his money to finance their budding hate group. I guess that would have been a nifty recruiting tool for extremists, their willingness to kill Mexicans to get things done. Nevermind the fact that the victims were American-born citizens, such details are irrelevant when racial bigotry is concerned.

This is the sort of thing that happens when you fan the flames of hatred, dehumanization is the predecessor to atrocity. I'm surprised this didn't get more attention from the mainstream media, I guess they aren't as liberal as so many seem to think.

Comments

[geezer-also.livejournal.com]

Like in "Clockwork Orange"?

[mrsilence.livejournal.com]

I was being dramatic, but I can't accept that killing people is somehow more acceptable than playing with their heads in a well-intentioned, controlled manner.

*shudders*

[geezer-also.livejournal.com]

Somehow that is really scary!!!

Re: *shudders*

[a-new-machine.livejournal.com]

Says the guy who thinks that the risk of accidentally murdering innocent citizens is worth whatever benefits to "justice" the penalty supposedly brings us.

Re: *shudders*

[geezer-also.livejournal.com]

You think a lobotomy would be the way to deal with murders?
(hmm that sounds like something someone else might write)
Do you think some kind of mind alteration is preferable to the death penalty? I am actually serious here, and that's why I used the word scary.

Re: *shudders*

[a-new-machine.livejournal.com]

They're both scary, I'll grant. It's finding the one scary, and the other OK, that worries me.

Re: *shudders*

[geezer-also.livejournal.com]

At this point of my life (statistically I have 15 more years left give or take) I prefer the idea of death to alsheimers, I hope that helps explain my mind set...in any case I really have to go to bed!

Re: *shudders*

[mrsilence.livejournal.com]

Whereas killing them is...less scary?

Re: *shudders*

[harry-beast.livejournal.com]

Yes. Better to die a quick, humane death than to have your mind rearranged by a bunch of mad scientists.

Re: *shudders*

[mrsilence.livejournal.com]

Do you think most prisoners on death row would choose death, if given the choice?

The ones who are guilty rather than crazy I strongly suspect would gladly go for psychological therapy.

A few might, but then, they're almost certainly psychopaths. The world rearranges our minds everyday. People live in cults that warp their minds perfectly lawfully. Forcibly making people who are killers, not killers, hardly seems a terrible thing.

Re: *shudders*

[harry-beast.livejournal.com]

"Playing with their heads" is not therapy. It is subjecting them to mental duress in order to break their minds, then reprogramming them. The sort of process used is described in 1984 and A Clockwork Orange.

Re: *shudders*

[geezer-also.livejournal.com]

In my opinion, yes.
mind control/alteration bothers me worse than death.

Re: *shudders*

[mrsilence.livejournal.com]

The world rearranges our mind every day. I'm just talking about turning the volume up.

Re: *shudders*

[geezer-also.livejournal.com]

I'm going to bed now, but I prly won't sleep (lie) ttrying to figure out that last sentence :P