Cops and Teachers? THEY Don't Pay Taxes!

[paft.livejournal.com]

Wisconsin State Assemblyman Robin Vos lets us all know what he thinks of those taxpaying Wisconsin citizens who work in the public sector:

The reality is they haven’t had to pay for these things, they’re upset about doing it now, and the taxpayers are the ones who definitely understand this because they get it, they’ve been doing this in the private sector for years, it’s time we had the same thing happen in the public sector…The fact that my Democratic colleagues want to go back to the taxpayer and have them pay higher taxes because someone shouldn’t pay 12% towards their healthcare….We are standing with the taxpayers all across Wisconsin. It’s amazing the outpouring of support that we’ve been getting from the people outside the Capitol Square, the people who are in the reality of the world, not the place that we’re sitting.

Howard Dean does a very good job of refuting Kudlow and Vos’ fiction that the demonstrations are all about the cuts in benefits and not about the elimination of collective bargaining. The capper to this exchange, however, comes near the end of the segment, when a sign appears just over Vos’ shoulder on the right. Not the kind of thing Kudlow could choreograph.

It beautifully highlights the idiocy of Vos' fiction that the demonstrators are, in some fundamental way, less American than other Americans. Does he really think cops and teachers don't pay taxes, or “live in the reality of the world?”

Crossposted from Thoughtcrimes
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Comments

[gunslnger.livejournal.com]

I actually believe they'll be better, but I'm willing to grant that they'll be as bad as they are now for arguments sake.

Anyway, the deeper problem, of course, is that poor people who can't afford this service are left to the mercy of survival of the fittest.

Which is as much an unfounded assertion as you say my statement is.

Living in a 1st world country means that we live in an egalitarian society of equal rights under the law

Which wouldn't change.

No public police force = no rule of law.

I disagree.

[kylinrouge.livejournal.com]

If you think that EVERYONE is going to be on this private plan I don't know what to say to you. It's about as obtuse as claiming that everyone right now has health insurance.

[gunslnger.livejournal.com]

Nope, I think that every poor person would choose to sign up, a good portion of middle class would not, and most rich would pay for premium service.

Why would someone claim that everyone has health insurance? And I've never heard anyone claim that anyways. The claim is that not everyone wants health insurance, which is accurate. And not everyone would care about having police or fire insurance either.

[paft.livejournal.com]

And if a poor person could not afford to sign up?

[gunslnger.livejournal.com]

There are multiple possibilities, and I'm not a fortune-teller. Look up how anarchists claim justice and police would work to see some of the options.

[kylinrouge.livejournal.com]

Can you try again without the word salad?

[gunslnger.livejournal.com]

No.

[paft.livejournal.com]

In short, you've got nothing.

[gunslnger.livejournal.com]

Once again, you're acting like an idiot.