http://dreadfulpenny81.livejournal.com/ ([identity profile] dreadfulpenny81.livejournal.com) wrote in [community profile] talkpolitics2011-02-16 04:20 pm

Right-wing blogs attack Lara Logan after tragic incident

Right now, I'm truly disgusted and ashamed of people within my own party who are either blaming Lara Logan for the brutal rape and assault that she endured or chalking it up to karma.

Two blogs - The Gateway Pundit and DebbieSchlussel.com - have both taken different but equally awful approaches to discussing what happened to Lara Logan.

First, a portion of the entry from Jim Hoft at The Gateway Pundit:
Lara Logan is lucky she’s alive.
Her liberal belief system almost got her killed on Friday. This talented reporter will never be the same.

Why did this attractive blonde female reporter wander into Tahrir Square last Friday? Why would she think this was a good idea? Did she not see the violence in the square the last three weeks? Did she not see the rock throwing? Did she miss the camels? Did her colleagues tell her about the Western journalists who were viciously assaulted on the Square? Did she forget about the taunts from the Egyptian thugs the day before? What was she thinking? Was it her political correctness that about got her killed? Did she think things would be different for her?
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Next, the entry from Debbie Schlussel:
As I’ve noted before, it bothers me not a lick when mainstream media reporters who keep telling us Muslims and Islam are peaceful get a taste of just how “peaceful” Muslims and Islam really are. In fact, it kinda warms my heart. Still, it’s also a great reminder of just how “civilized” these “people” (or, as I like to call them in Arabic, “Bahai’im” [Animals]) are...
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Schlussel also posted an update after receiving reaction on the entry:
The reaction of the left to this article is funny in its predictability. Sooo damn predictable. Of course I don’t support “sexual assault” or violence against Lara Logan, and I said that nowhere here. RIF–Reading Is Fundamental. Your premature articulation is a problem. I did say that it warms my heart when reporters who openly deny that Islam is violent and constantly promote it get the same kinds of threats of violence I get every day from Muslims. Because now they know how it feels. They aren’t so dismissive of the threats when those threats are directed at them, instead of at us little people. And yet they still won’t admit that THIS. IS. ISLAM. Lara Logan was among the chief cheerleaders of this “revolution” by animals. Now she knows what Islamic revolution is really all about.
Hoft chose a more "misogyny-on-parade" approach, focusing on her looks and asking condescending hypothetical questions about why she was there, as if her presence gave anyone the right to touch her in the first place. Schlussel, on the other hand, seems to imply that Logan's abuse was deserved based on an allegedly naive attitude about what the people were like and how they'd treat her.

It seems people have taken a casual attitude about rape in the past few years, and that's really bothersome. No wonder rapes go unreported in the world, when you have morons like these playing the victim-blame game.

EDIT: Seems it gets worse when you read the rest of Schlussel's entry:
So sad, too bad, Lara. No one told her to go there. She knew the risks. And she should have known what Islam is all about. Now she knows. Or so we'd hope. But in the case of the media vis-a-vis Islam, that's a hope that's generally unanswered.

This never happened to her or any other mainstream media reporter when Mubarak was allowed to treat his country of savages in the only way they can be controlled.

Now that's all gone. How fitting that Lara Logan was "liberated" by Muslims in Liberation Square while she was gushing over the other part of the "liberation."

Hope you're enjoying the revolution, Lara! Alhamdilllullah [praise allah].
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I want so badly to punch Debbie Schlussel in the face over and over and over again...

[identity profile] dwer.livejournal.com 2011-02-16 09:30 pm (UTC)(link)
I really don't understand why there's such opposition to this revolution on the Right. The Muslim Brotherhood really isn't running things.

[identity profile] the-rukh.livejournal.com 2011-02-16 09:34 pm (UTC)(link)
Because them camel humping animals don't know how to democracy. Its scary when they get uppity and start thinking they can rule themselves and not be controlled by a U.S. friendly dictator.

[identity profile] nevermind6794.livejournal.com 2011-02-16 09:38 pm (UTC)(link)
Wow, did those people miss the point. Of course she knew it was dangerous. That had been established. Journalists sometimes intentionally put themselves in dangerous situations in order to get information (and ratings).

[identity profile] notmrgarrison.livejournal.com 2011-02-16 09:39 pm (UTC)(link)
Here's another: http://dailycaller.com/2011/02/15/nir-rosen-trashes-lara-logan-dismisses-her-sexual-assault/


I don't see how Schlussel's post says she deserved it. It is very anti-muslim however. Like KKK level racist.

[identity profile] mijopo.livejournal.com 2011-02-16 09:41 pm (UTC)(link)
Egypt is a hellhole for women in general, http://articles.latimes.com/2008/dec/17/world/fg-harassment17, here's hoping the revolution makes it better.

[identity profile] underlankers.livejournal.com 2011-02-16 09:51 pm (UTC)(link)
Unusual but we entirely agree on this. This kind of behavior, full-stop, is disgusting and indefensible. >.<

[identity profile] tridus.livejournal.com 2011-02-16 09:52 pm (UTC)(link)
These are people from the same country where violent shooting sprees are common? Man, Christians sure are violent animals that need to be controlled by a friendly dictator.


These blogs just show you the type of unmitigated bullshit that is the "right" these days. They've gone over into batshit insane territory.

[identity profile] notmrgarrison.livejournal.com 2011-02-16 09:57 pm (UTC)(link)
that is the "right" these days

The bloggers in the OP over-generalize. Good to see that you don't.

[identity profile] rasilio.livejournal.com 2011-02-16 09:58 pm (UTC)(link)
Idiots

[identity profile] mijopo.livejournal.com 2011-02-16 10:01 pm (UTC)(link)
It is very anti-muslim however.

that's an interesting claim. I've seen other claims that sexual harassment tends to be quite prevalent in at least some Muslim countries, e.g., see the link I posted below or this: http://plancksconstant.org/blog1/muslim_sexual_harassment/

Do you mean that it violates the strictures of Islam despite the fact that it's hard to argue that sexual harassment is uncommon in at least some of these Muslim countries or the fact that it's not even illegal in some predominantly Muslim countries.? Or are the reports compiled above all way off base? Can you clarify the "KKK level racist" statement"

[identity profile] novapsyche.livejournal.com 2011-02-16 10:02 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, because she planned to get separated from her crew.

[identity profile] underlankers.livejournal.com 2011-02-16 10:03 pm (UTC)(link)
Unfortunately batshit insane is not a monopoly of any one party. Saying this is unfortunately the same mindset that the bloggers here mentioned have.

[identity profile] yes-justice.livejournal.com 2011-02-16 10:09 pm (UTC)(link)
Those "attractive blondes" really should cover themselves up or they're just asking for it!

/snark....

[identity profile] sealwhiskers.livejournal.com 2011-02-16 10:10 pm (UTC)(link)
It seems it's a lose-lose situation if you're a woman journalist. If you stay safe and report form a distance, you're a diva who don't want to get your hands dirty, if you go into the heat of fire, you get what you deserve.

This is something that was actually discussed in a thread here in TP not so long ago.

Also, how quaint that these blogs never mention all the rapes that take place in a Christian society. I guess maybe they weren't "real" rapes?
Edited 2011-02-16 22:11 (UTC)

[identity profile] yes-justice.livejournal.com 2011-02-16 10:12 pm (UTC)(link)
This never happened to her or any other mainstream media reporter when Mubarak was allowed to treat his country of savages in the only way they can be controlled.

Actually, as is noted above, Egypt has a fair awful record for treatment of women.

[identity profile] notmrgarrison.livejournal.com 2011-02-16 10:12 pm (UTC)(link)
THIS. IS. ISLAM. Lara Logan was among the chief cheerleaders of this “revolution” by animals. Now she knows what Islamic revolution is really all about.


How could you claim that to not be anti-muslim?

Let's try it with a different group:

THIS. IS. THE. TEAPARTY. Lara Logan was among the chief cheerleaders of this “revolution” by animals. Now she knows what the Tea Party is really all about.


See how that's anti-teaparty?


One could make a list of gross treatment of women in Muslim countries, with the Taliban taking top prize and the Saudis coming in second. It would be nice if someone would make such a list. One could also ask gay rights activists why they never stage Gay Pride parades in muslim countries (lol).

[identity profile] underlankers.livejournal.com 2011-02-16 10:14 pm (UTC)(link)
Yep. And it's not like so-called civilized countries with Christianity as their majority religion ever legally mandated women marry their rapists-oh wait.

[identity profile] notmrgarrison.livejournal.com 2011-02-16 10:14 pm (UTC)(link)
How many gang-rapes happen at protests?

[identity profile] thies.livejournal.com 2011-02-16 10:17 pm (UTC)(link)
I have yet to see a society which is devoid of 'criminals' who will act on their impulses when they can get away with it. It's not called "being muslim" but more aptly described as "being human".

[identity profile] mijopo.livejournal.com 2011-02-16 10:23 pm (UTC)(link)
I see, I misunderstood what the "it" denoted. I thought you "it" referred to sexual harassment and assault, but it was referring to a particular article. I get it now. Sorry.

[identity profile] mrsilence.livejournal.com 2011-02-16 10:39 pm (UTC)(link)
How many in Egypt are we comparing it with?

How many need to occur for those that happen in the U.S. to become meaningless?

[identity profile] mrbogey.livejournal.com 2011-02-16 10:41 pm (UTC)(link)
Democracy will only make it worse for women. Sexism is popular and democracy is up with popular.

Or should I say

[identity profile] mrsilence.livejournal.com 2011-02-16 10:47 pm (UTC)(link)
I heard sexism isn't all that popular with the ~50% of people who are women.

[identity profile] notmrgarrison.livejournal.com 2011-02-16 10:54 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, now your second paragraph makes sense to me.

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