talkpolitics | Right-wing blogs attack Lara Logan after tragic incident

Right now, I'm truly disgusted and ashamed of people within my own party who are either blaming Lara Logan for the brutal rape and assault that she endured or chalking it up to karma.

Two blogs - The Gateway Pundit and DebbieSchlussel.com - have both taken different but equally awful approaches to discussing what happened to Lara Logan.

First, a portion of the entry from Jim Hoft at The Gateway Pundit:

Lara Logan is lucky she’s alive.
Her liberal belief system almost got her killed on Friday. This talented reporter will never be the same.

Why did this attractive blonde female reporter wander into Tahrir Square last Friday? Why would she think this was a good idea? Did she not see the violence in the square the last three weeks? Did she not see the rock throwing? Did she miss the camels? Did her colleagues tell her about the Western journalists who were viciously assaulted on the Square? Did she forget about the taunts from the Egyptian thugs the day before? What was she thinking? Was it her political correctness that about got her killed? Did she think things would be different for her?

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Next, the entry from Debbie Schlussel:

As I’ve noted before, it bothers me not a lick when mainstream media reporters who keep telling us Muslims and Islam are peaceful get a taste of just how “peaceful” Muslims and Islam really are. In fact, it kinda warms my heart. Still, it’s also a great reminder of just how “civilized” these “people” (or, as I like to call them in Arabic, “Bahai’im” [Animals]) are...

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Schlussel also posted an update after receiving reaction on the entry:

The reaction of the left to this article is funny in its predictability. Sooo damn predictable. Of course I don’t support “sexual assault” or violence against Lara Logan, and I said that nowhere here. RIF–Reading Is Fundamental. Your premature articulation is a problem. I did say that it warms my heart when reporters who openly deny that Islam is violent and constantly promote it get the same kinds of threats of violence I get every day from Muslims. Because now they know how it feels. They aren’t so dismissive of the threats when those threats are directed at them, instead of at us little people. And yet they still won’t admit that THIS. IS. ISLAM. Lara Logan was among the chief cheerleaders of this “revolution” by animals. Now she knows what Islamic revolution is really all about.

Hoft chose a more "misogyny-on-parade" approach, focusing on her looks and asking condescending hypothetical questions about why she was there, as if her presence gave anyone the right to touch her in the first place. Schlussel, on the other hand, seems to imply that Logan's abuse was deserved based on an allegedly naive attitude about what the people were like and how they'd treat her.

It seems people have taken a casual attitude about rape in the past few years, and that's really bothersome. No wonder rapes go unreported in the world, when you have morons like these playing the victim-blame game.

EDIT: Seems it gets worse when you read the rest of Schlussel's entry:

So sad, too bad, Lara. No one told her to go there. She knew the risks. And she should have known what Islam is all about. Now she knows. Or so we'd hope. But in the case of the media vis-a-vis Islam, that's a hope that's generally unanswered.

This never happened to her or any other mainstream media reporter when Mubarak was allowed to treat his country of savages in the only way they can be controlled.

Now that's all gone. How fitting that Lara Logan was "liberated" by Muslims in Liberation Square while she was gushing over the other part of the "liberation."

Hope you're enjoying the revolution, Lara! Alhamdilllullah [praise allah].

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I want so badly to punch Debbie Schlussel in the face over and over and over again...

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It's definitely my theory.

Well can't say I've ever heard of him, but I've had a quick flick through his wiki and some other writings.

I don't see how this particular comment negates anything he said about Iraq or Bush (which I presume is your inference), but HE DID get what was coming to him for those particular remarks.

Well the trajectory from raping women and beating them for talking back has to be up however shallow.

how's the IRA doing?

and ranks somewhere up there with Anderson NOT THE FACE Cooper in newswortiness in my opinion. which means, it's not news.

Plenty of oppressive states had or have free speech. Including the USSR.

uh... wow.

Of course we shouldn't expect every ill of Egyptian society to be fixed immediately, or even that other ills won't arise under democracy. T

hat's not what its about. It's the general ability of democracy to rectify those ills, eventually, that people trust in. Rightly, in my view.

Meh, I disagree.

Although what you say is true about the people involved, as a system, given the same pool of individuals I would expect a better result with democracy than other systems. I think most people would agree.

Actually slave societies always feared servile wars and were paranoid as all Hell. The Slave South was in a lot of ways more like Israel than like what US culture is thought to be. Unless you're Nebris, nobody thinks a gender rebellion is going to happen anytime soon.

Actually the Egyptians have had a movement like this once before. British invasions suppressed it at gunpoint and ruled Egypt for the next few decades. For some damnfool reason the usual reaction of people who see a revolution in progress and are afraid of it is to invade the strongholds of the revolution. Genre Savviness never appears to apply in real life. And if Israel decides to be the Saddam in this scenario.....

The problem with that is there can be "free speech" in the sense that the Soviet Union was a federalist republic with full freedom of religion.

That's because men and women, as groups have far greater vested interest in relatively peaceful resolution of their conflict, a way that that slaves and masters, as groups do not. The battle line is never clearly drawn.

I don't doubt that such slave rebellion fears existed, but equally, there generally was, akin to the mysogyny-internalised women that spaz refers to, plenty of slaves who had internalised their roles as slaves.

Given the keys to the manor, although dazed at first, would they still choose to remain slaves?

Well strictly speaking, it's not one a repeatable theory we can test either way, although we can certainly investigate many examples to see which view they support.

As you say, it's mostly a matter of a different of opinions. Fortunately I'm the one who is right here! (of course)

Where there is racism, sexism can not be far behind. And all, of course, tooting the horn of nationalism. They're playing for the World Series for Assholes.

(One more time)
Back in Freedomland, safe from the Mozlem Menace... (http://www.rainn.org/get-information/statistics/sexual-assault-victims)

New Orleans after Katrina.

oh, but haven't you read the comments? Somehow it's a "better" kind of rape in the US, because it's rarely committed during a rally.

well okay then. I guess you just wanted to tell the public that non-democracies are more unsafe. Hope all the kids heard that and learned something.

Then you realize those figures are reported cases and they don't account for unreported rapes and assaults...

Oh, but it's those Brown folk across the world; they're the misogynists, they're the haters of women. Fucking please.

Do you mean that such abuse has increased or decreased in democracies?
Sorry, I'm not clear on that point.

The USSR had free speech?
When was this?

No, and please, you told all the kiddies that "Rape happens in every country regardless of religion"?

Christ.

A person suffering like Laura Logan did warms your heart ?

Shame. Shame. Shame on that blogger...Debbie Schlussel.

That is a horrific horrific sentiment to express and have. I do hope somebody enlightens her and she finds a way to change her heart and mind over this area of belief.

You hooked on to my comment, with a fairly unclear remark which somehow seemed to imply that it is a lot safer in the US, maybe perhaps implying that there were overwhelming statistics on this, with the ambition to probably deflate my comment that rape happens everywhere and is a phenomena as well in Christian countries as in Muslim countries.

If this was your ambition, I disagree. If that wasn't your ambition, then learn to write your message more clearly.

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