Right-wing blogs attack Lara Logan after tragic incident

[dreadfulpenny81.livejournal.com]

Right now, I'm truly disgusted and ashamed of people within my own party who are either blaming Lara Logan for the brutal rape and assault that she endured or chalking it up to karma.

Two blogs - The Gateway Pundit and DebbieSchlussel.com - have both taken different but equally awful approaches to discussing what happened to Lara Logan.

First, a portion of the entry from Jim Hoft at The Gateway Pundit:

Lara Logan is lucky she’s alive.
Her liberal belief system almost got her killed on Friday. This talented reporter will never be the same.

Why did this attractive blonde female reporter wander into Tahrir Square last Friday? Why would she think this was a good idea? Did she not see the violence in the square the last three weeks? Did she not see the rock throwing? Did she miss the camels? Did her colleagues tell her about the Western journalists who were viciously assaulted on the Square? Did she forget about the taunts from the Egyptian thugs the day before? What was she thinking? Was it her political correctness that about got her killed? Did she think things would be different for her?

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Next, the entry from Debbie Schlussel:

As I’ve noted before, it bothers me not a lick when mainstream media reporters who keep telling us Muslims and Islam are peaceful get a taste of just how “peaceful” Muslims and Islam really are. In fact, it kinda warms my heart. Still, it’s also a great reminder of just how “civilized” these “people” (or, as I like to call them in Arabic, “Bahai’im” [Animals]) are...

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Schlussel also posted an update after receiving reaction on the entry:

The reaction of the left to this article is funny in its predictability. Sooo damn predictable. Of course I don’t support “sexual assault” or violence against Lara Logan, and I said that nowhere here. RIF–Reading Is Fundamental. Your premature articulation is a problem. I did say that it warms my heart when reporters who openly deny that Islam is violent and constantly promote it get the same kinds of threats of violence I get every day from Muslims. Because now they know how it feels. They aren’t so dismissive of the threats when those threats are directed at them, instead of at us little people. And yet they still won’t admit that THIS. IS. ISLAM. Lara Logan was among the chief cheerleaders of this “revolution” by animals. Now she knows what Islamic revolution is really all about.

Hoft chose a more "misogyny-on-parade" approach, focusing on her looks and asking condescending hypothetical questions about why she was there, as if her presence gave anyone the right to touch her in the first place. Schlussel, on the other hand, seems to imply that Logan's abuse was deserved based on an allegedly naive attitude about what the people were like and how they'd treat her.

It seems people have taken a casual attitude about rape in the past few years, and that's really bothersome. No wonder rapes go unreported in the world, when you have morons like these playing the victim-blame game.

EDIT: Seems it gets worse when you read the rest of Schlussel's entry:

So sad, too bad, Lara. No one told her to go there. She knew the risks. And she should have known what Islam is all about. Now she knows. Or so we'd hope. But in the case of the media vis-a-vis Islam, that's a hope that's generally unanswered.

This never happened to her or any other mainstream media reporter when Mubarak was allowed to treat his country of savages in the only way they can be controlled.

Now that's all gone. How fitting that Lara Logan was "liberated" by Muslims in Liberation Square while she was gushing over the other part of the "liberation."

Hope you're enjoying the revolution, Lara! Alhamdilllullah [praise allah].

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I want so badly to punch Debbie Schlussel in the face over and over and over again...

Comments

[notmrgarrison.livejournal.com]

I still don't understand the huge emphasis on "democracy". I would think free speech is more important, or at least as important.

[notmrgarrison.livejournal.com]

No one said anything about meaningless.

But I read, not too many years ago, about women being regularly harrassed/groped/assaulted in the streets of Eygpt by crowds of men and the police paid it a blind eye, except when they joined in, and I would say that that doesn't happen in the US, out in the open, so I don't quite see why rapes in the US need to be mentioned in this story.

[policraticus.livejournal.com]

Er... the big news was on the Left, actually.

http://www.nationalreview.com/campaign-spot/259833/appalling-reaction-outrageous-crime

Nir Rosen has since left Twitter and resigned from NYU.

[notmrgarrison.livejournal.com]

First! (http://community.livejournal.com/talk_politics/899550.html?thread=68387038#t68387038)

[a-new-machine.livejournal.com]

Relevant (http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2011/02/the-lunatic-left-right-harmonic-rape-convergence-theory/71350/)

[sealwhiskers.livejournal.com]

perhaps because of how the blog was phrasing it?

[spaz-own-joo.livejournal.com]

People raised in the western tradition see these completely distinct concepts as weirdly inseparable. I don't really get it.

[sealwhiskers.livejournal.com]

There is greater danger in un-democratic countries, yes, still, thank you for omitting the whole point of my comment.

[policraticus.livejournal.com]

Yeah, but National Review > Daily Caller.

; P

[mrsilence.livejournal.com]

Free speech is important because without it, the government can conceal the truth from the people.

Democracy is a system whereby, once duly informed of the truth (to their own satisfaction), the people can impel government to obey their will. It's nice to know the facts, but something altogether different to do something about it.

There are other means of course, (like protesting in the streets until your dictator either shoots you or is forced to do it your way) and democracy is far from perfect, but I think democracy is the best system available. I'm pretty sure the Egyptians as a whole agree that democracy is the best system to get what they want; which is the important thing.

[notmrgarrison.livejournal.com]

Exactly why should I have? I'm addressing one thing that you said, why should I have to address everything else?

[notmrgarrison.livejournal.com]

Your mom's > Daily Caller.

[notmrgarrison.livejournal.com]

I'm not knocking democracy, I'm knocking the lack of free speech, though Spaz Own Joo perhaps hit it (people think it comes automatically with democracy).

[mrsilence.livejournal.com]

Who is this arsehole?

[sealwhiskers.livejournal.com]

So, you're saying it's safer to be in a rally in the US, while I'm commenting on a muslim-hating blogger who rejoices in saying that this is typical in a "muslim revolution".

My point: Rape happens in every country regardless of religion. Second point: it is extra dangerous to go to un-democratic countries, women journalists get bashed if they report from the field and also if they don't.

Blogs point: THIS IS WHAT MUSLIMS DO, YOU ASKED FOR IT!

Your point: ?????

[mrsilence.livejournal.com]

Well of course we do, we pretty much all live in democracies. In principle of course the 2 can be seperated.

But there's also a fairly good argument, that if you want to give everyone an equal voice and make decisions based on what the majority want (which seems to be what people in Egypt want), the simplest way to do that is to present decisions to the people, devise a way for them to indicate their preference (like writing on a piece of paper and sticking in a box), then count up all the preferences and declaring which way you are going to go on the issue.

Or if that's too difficult because there is so many people and so many issues to decide, instead you get them to do exactly the same thing to regularly choose people they think best represents their position, and then get those representative to do all the sticking things in boxes for them.

Sound like anything you know about?

[mrsilence.livejournal.com]

Ask yourself, what's the point of free speech in and of itself?

[anadinboy.livejournal.com]

islam takes those anti-social aspects of being human and makes them aspirational, thats why its so dodgy

[spaz-own-joo.livejournal.com]

It feels good and people want it. It sometimes helps people get other things they want, and sometimes it is democratic means which make that possible. If that's what you're angling for, let me just agree hastily with the premise, before maintaining that they remain separate concepts, however nicely we may think they work together.

[dv8nation.livejournal.com]

Communism, fascism, theocracy and a such have rather poor records when it comes to free speech so it does tend to work better with democracy.

[dv8nation.livejournal.com]

About as many as happen at rock concerts, I'd guess.

The right is wrong, again

[fizzyland.livejournal.com]

This never happened to her or any other mainstream media reporter when Mubarak was allowed to treat his country of savages in the only way they can be controlled.

Now to put the lie to this evil cow: Overlooked: Mubarak Ordered Army To ‘Crush Demonstrators’ In Tahrir Square (http://www.mediaite.com/online/overlooked-mubarak-ordered-egyptian-army-to-crush-demonstrators-in-tahrir-square/)

[anadinboy.livejournal.com]

in uk we had some home grown muslims who planned on blowing up a nightclub. They discussed the innocence level of the victims first, and concluded it would be ok because of "all those slags dancing around" .

Re: Or should I say

[spaz-own-joo.livejournal.com]

Actually many of 'em seem to have gotten on board the internalized misogyny wagon just fine.

[spaz-own-joo.livejournal.com]

Has that been the trajectory of most democracies which arose from sexist societies?