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Tis the Season to be a Frickin' Douchebag...Falalalalala....
Hat tip to
telemann for the video link...Jon Stewart has aired his annual first shot at the yearly attempt to manufacture a "War Against Christmas" among the Fox News commentariat. Go ahead and watch the whole thing. I'll wait.
Now to be entirely fair, complaints about the nature of Christmas in the United States of America did not originate with Fox News and are not recent. Tom Lehrer presented the following song as an appropriate Christmas Carol for the year 1959:
Nevertheless, there is something odd about the past ten years or so of complaints about Christmas being "spoiled" by efforts of including some of the other religious holidays that share a common season in our pluralistic society or even acknowledging that others celebrate no specific holiday. It's led to a staggering amount of huffing and puffing and even periodic boycotts of retailers who, in an attempt to draw a broader crowd of holiday shoppers, offer "Season's Greetings" instead of "Merry Christmas".
The alleged "war" has taken to billboards in the New York metropolitan area where an atheist group paid for this billboard approaching the Lincoln Tunnel:

And found themselves countered by The Catholic League a short while later:

All of which gets me thinking of my first encounter with allegations that Christmas was "under assault". It was 1987, and I was 18 years old, returning home from my first semester of college to a small town in Massachusetts that was nearly 70% Jewish. Despite this demographic oddity, the fire department of the town annually decorated Town Hall in lights and a fairly garish, plastic, lit Santa Claus. The center of town was usually decorated tastefully with wreaths and white lights.
Well, right around my beginning high school, our town attracted a group of Chabad Labuvitch, a sub sect of Hassidic Jews who have a particular and peculiar mission. Among their various philosophies is a movement to bring about Messiah -- in fact, some in Chabad actually believe to this day that their late leader, Rabbi Menachem Schneerson WAS the Messiah. But even those who do not believe it is their duty to bring all Jews to a PROPER expression of our faith...which if you know anything about Judaism is a really funny project.
Labuvitchers do this by being uncharacteristically upfront about their faith and even in your face, especially if you are a Jew. Here in New York City, they operate a giant Sukkahmobile so that they can invite people they think are Jewish inside to participate in the Mitzvah of sitting in a Sukkah during the holiday of Sukkhot -- Now if you can imagine the controversy that a bunch of bearded men in large black overcoats might engender when they invite elementary school aged kids into a truck with them, you can probably guess that, unlike most Hassidim, Labuvitchers are not adverse to controversy and public attention.
So in my little town, this group's rabbi went to our town's board of selectmen and insisted that if the fire department was putting up a giant plastic Santa Claus on town property, they should also accommodate the rabbi's GIANT EIGHT FOOT TALL CHANNUKAH MENORAH which had previously only been visible to cars that passed his house on Main Street. The board accomodated him -- for one year, and in 1987 they declared that displays of specific religions should not be on town property, but the general holiday theme of lights was fine.
You would have thought that someone had taken Rudolph, cut him loose from his sleigh harness and stuck him on a roasting spit while he was still alive...all in front of the children's choir. People wrote lengthy, weepy letters to the town paper declaring that the "Grinch" had taken over town hall and protesting that Santa Claus was just a "jolly old elf for ALL children." While I was somewhat sympathetic (largely out of my belief that Chabad was a giant pain in the town's collective tuchus), I could not agree with the assessment of Santa Claus as a symbol for all children. Saint Nicholas is not a Jewish figure or a Muslim figure or a Hindu figure or an atheist figure -- he's a Christian Saint, and it is not only demeaning to other religions to graft him on their faiths, it is demeaning to Christianity to deflate an important figure to nothing more than the last car of the Macy's parade.
Now, more than two decades later, I have lived in plenty of places with very few Jews, and I know full well that I am a religious minority in this country and the vast majority celebrates and observes Christmas as a religious holiday. Even in New York City, I have to find constant ways this time of year to explain to my almost four year old daughter that we won't get a Christmas tree for our home no matter how much she wants one...spurned on by the omnipresence of Christmas and her inability to comprehend the importance of us being Jews not Christians.
I don't hold any grudge or desire for entitlement in the face of that, but I cannot help but wonder why some people feel such an urgent need to portray almost any nod towards a more pluralistic holiday season either from government or corporations as a "war" against the Christianity of Christmas. I see lots of lights up. I hear lots of music in public spaces that is geared towards Christmas. And while it is utterly dickish to try to purge any trace of Christianity from public view, it is even more dickish to wail that this is actually happening on any grand scale or that minor efforts like relabeling a parade constitutes an attack on Christians.
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Now to be entirely fair, complaints about the nature of Christmas in the United States of America did not originate with Fox News and are not recent. Tom Lehrer presented the following song as an appropriate Christmas Carol for the year 1959:
Nevertheless, there is something odd about the past ten years or so of complaints about Christmas being "spoiled" by efforts of including some of the other religious holidays that share a common season in our pluralistic society or even acknowledging that others celebrate no specific holiday. It's led to a staggering amount of huffing and puffing and even periodic boycotts of retailers who, in an attempt to draw a broader crowd of holiday shoppers, offer "Season's Greetings" instead of "Merry Christmas".
The alleged "war" has taken to billboards in the New York metropolitan area where an atheist group paid for this billboard approaching the Lincoln Tunnel:

And found themselves countered by The Catholic League a short while later:

All of which gets me thinking of my first encounter with allegations that Christmas was "under assault". It was 1987, and I was 18 years old, returning home from my first semester of college to a small town in Massachusetts that was nearly 70% Jewish. Despite this demographic oddity, the fire department of the town annually decorated Town Hall in lights and a fairly garish, plastic, lit Santa Claus. The center of town was usually decorated tastefully with wreaths and white lights.
Well, right around my beginning high school, our town attracted a group of Chabad Labuvitch, a sub sect of Hassidic Jews who have a particular and peculiar mission. Among their various philosophies is a movement to bring about Messiah -- in fact, some in Chabad actually believe to this day that their late leader, Rabbi Menachem Schneerson WAS the Messiah. But even those who do not believe it is their duty to bring all Jews to a PROPER expression of our faith...which if you know anything about Judaism is a really funny project.
Labuvitchers do this by being uncharacteristically upfront about their faith and even in your face, especially if you are a Jew. Here in New York City, they operate a giant Sukkahmobile so that they can invite people they think are Jewish inside to participate in the Mitzvah of sitting in a Sukkah during the holiday of Sukkhot -- Now if you can imagine the controversy that a bunch of bearded men in large black overcoats might engender when they invite elementary school aged kids into a truck with them, you can probably guess that, unlike most Hassidim, Labuvitchers are not adverse to controversy and public attention.
So in my little town, this group's rabbi went to our town's board of selectmen and insisted that if the fire department was putting up a giant plastic Santa Claus on town property, they should also accommodate the rabbi's GIANT EIGHT FOOT TALL CHANNUKAH MENORAH which had previously only been visible to cars that passed his house on Main Street. The board accomodated him -- for one year, and in 1987 they declared that displays of specific religions should not be on town property, but the general holiday theme of lights was fine.
You would have thought that someone had taken Rudolph, cut him loose from his sleigh harness and stuck him on a roasting spit while he was still alive...all in front of the children's choir. People wrote lengthy, weepy letters to the town paper declaring that the "Grinch" had taken over town hall and protesting that Santa Claus was just a "jolly old elf for ALL children." While I was somewhat sympathetic (largely out of my belief that Chabad was a giant pain in the town's collective tuchus), I could not agree with the assessment of Santa Claus as a symbol for all children. Saint Nicholas is not a Jewish figure or a Muslim figure or a Hindu figure or an atheist figure -- he's a Christian Saint, and it is not only demeaning to other religions to graft him on their faiths, it is demeaning to Christianity to deflate an important figure to nothing more than the last car of the Macy's parade.
Now, more than two decades later, I have lived in plenty of places with very few Jews, and I know full well that I am a religious minority in this country and the vast majority celebrates and observes Christmas as a religious holiday. Even in New York City, I have to find constant ways this time of year to explain to my almost four year old daughter that we won't get a Christmas tree for our home no matter how much she wants one...spurned on by the omnipresence of Christmas and her inability to comprehend the importance of us being Jews not Christians.
I don't hold any grudge or desire for entitlement in the face of that, but I cannot help but wonder why some people feel such an urgent need to portray almost any nod towards a more pluralistic holiday season either from government or corporations as a "war" against the Christianity of Christmas. I see lots of lights up. I hear lots of music in public spaces that is geared towards Christmas. And while it is utterly dickish to try to purge any trace of Christianity from public view, it is even more dickish to wail that this is actually happening on any grand scale or that minor efforts like relabeling a parade constitutes an attack on Christians.
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The Birth of Christ is now the Salvation of Mammon. How fun. /snerk.
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I literally spit out my coffee when I saw that graphic, when this first aired.
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We're some of the most intolerant assholes where the free exercise of religion is concerned.
contrast America to this:
http://www.ricksteves.com/news/chrvodcast.htm
If anything, it helps to put a person's focus on tradition, faith and charity rather than consumerism run amok.
Lastly, if it weren't for twits like (http://www.philly.com/philly/news/20101130_Let_s_call_it_the_German__Holiday__Village.html) this (http://www.star-telegram.com/2010/12/02/2676274/jpmorgan-chase-orders-southlake.html) , Stewart wouldn't have to pretend that there weren't twits like that.
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Saturnalia! Brumalia!
8 Questions Gentiles Love Asking About Hanukkah (http://www.cracked.com/blog/8-questions-gentiles-love-asking-about-hanukkah/)
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(My favourite is just renaming a Christmas tree a "holiday" tree. Yup, that'll work because all religion use an evergreen tree as a key symbol for their an important celebration / observation that they participate in the Decemberish time frame.)
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Do you celebrate the 4th of July?
How about New Years?
Labor Day?
Thanksgiving?
That Christmas has religious overtones to some is completely irrelevant to the fact that it is also an important cultural holiday and in fact NONE, that is right absolutely none of the traditions associated with the cultural holiday are Christian in Origin.
Saying I won't celebrate Christmas because it is Christian is just foolish because it is NOT Christian and never really has been.
Hell it was not until sometime in the late 1880's that the Catholic church even began allowing it's members to have Christmas celebrations, prior to that the practice was considered pagan and officially forbidden (not that very many listened).
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Because this getting
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"Kill a Tree for Christ"
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Hahahaah!
GIANT EIGHT FOOT TALL CHANNUKAH MENORAH
Big Daddy!
You would have thought that someone had taken Rudolph, cut him loose from his sleigh harness and stuck him on a roasting spit while he was still alive.
I think that was the Simpsons last week, cept it was Crusty as Santa making Rudolph soup! 5:20+
http://otseries.info/the-simpsons-season-22-episode-8-the-fight-before-christmas/
Thanks for the TL song, hadn't heard it before.
And
Being Pagan, and Australian
I live in a secular democracy, although in the only state where the State Schools are not secular.
I see weird Snow and Fur trimmed coats and other winter themes getting more and more over the top as the temperature approaches meltdown.
So, I wish people a "Happy Festive Season" except pagans and people who get in my face about Jesus, both of those minorities get a hearty "Merry Midsummer".
Retailers I wish a "Happy Festival of the Jolly Fat Man".
Before I depart, don't forget the Reason for the Season
... Axial Tilt
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