ext_85117 ([identity profile] thies.livejournal.com) wrote in [community profile] talkpolitics2010-04-07 08:56 am
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Using the constitution as toilet paper - again. The Obama administration authorized the killing of Anwar al-Awlaki who holds US citizenship. There is some nefarious precedent being created by allowing the President to order the killing of American citizens, regardless of their alleged crimes, without granting them their 5th Amendment rights. Bush with his renditions, and the implications of the Patriot Act was bad enough, but ordering a US citizen to be assassinated as Obama now did takes it to a whole new level. I bet Stalin would be proud of Barry Soetoro. Anyone want to wager which other parts of the constitution will be considered void by Obama until he gets kicked out of the white house?

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[identity profile] penguin42.livejournal.com 2010-04-07 08:36 pm (UTC)(link)
how do we take him into custody if he's in a country we have no extradition treaty with?
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[identity profile] geezer-also.livejournal.com 2010-04-07 11:20 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm thinking even at the high cost of drones, it's cheaper than a trial.

[identity profile] geezer-also.livejournal.com 2010-04-09 12:35 am (UTC)(link)
What do you expect? I'm a conservative.

[identity profile] gunslnger.livejournal.com 2010-04-10 12:02 am (UTC)(link)
Conservatives are not morally bankrupt.

[identity profile] geezer-also.livejournal.com 2010-04-10 01:05 am (UTC)(link)
Well, I would agree with you, however how do you explain the large number of conservatives that support the idea of drones?

Honestly, I'm not sure you (nor I) can make such a sweeping generalization like _________ are not morally bankrupt, or __________are immoral people.

Let's grant that my statements were at their core, flippant, partially because I took your statement that sending a drone to take out this guy was immoral and extrapolated to infer that you felt anyone who believed that was immoral, therefore I am immoral. I may be wrong, but as a generalization, immoral, not a chance, at least not as I think of morallity.

[identity profile] gunslnger.livejournal.com 2010-04-10 02:36 am (UTC)(link)
They aren't logically consistent.

Yes, I would consider anyone who supports preemptive strikes and political assassinations to be morally inferior. They are also not following (or understanding) the Constitution.

[identity profile] ryder-p-moses.livejournal.com 2010-04-08 05:44 am (UTC)(link)
Is this the fuckton of shit we recieved for extrajudicially dissapearing people because we couldn't demonstrate they'd done anything wrong in a court of law but some guy said they were bad guys no honest? Or are you talking about some other fuckton of shit?