ext_36450 ([identity profile] underlankers.livejournal.com) wrote in [community profile] talkpolitics2014-03-01 09:21 am

Now the Long Knives are poised right in the back of Ukraine:

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-26400035

Fucking brilliant approach, this. First the attempt to play divide and conquer in Ukraine pretty transparently crashed and burned with the retun of Ukraine's Benazir Bhutto to political influence. Then, the Russians decide evidently that they really did move in Russian Army soldiers into the Crimea. Because the proper instinct when a risky gamble fails is to raise the stakes. This is not going to end well by any means. Now I'm wondering how long Lucashenko will have a country to rule as dictator, and what might happen with Round II with Georgia. If Tsar Vladimir I of the House of Putin succeeds in this kind of thing, that will only encourage him to expand his wars of aggression further because Ukraine is rather larger than Georgia, and this would permit Russia to begin aspiring to regain aspects of the old Tsarist boundaries. I sincerely expected Russia would use Central Asia for this kind of thing, not Ukraine.

The EU wouldn't give a damn about invading Muslims in Kazakhstan, but invading an EU state? That's not going to lead Russia to do anything but decide to engage in still-larger wars of aggression in the long term.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/03/01/world/europe/ukraine-politics/

And one of the chambers of the Russian legislature just approved this request. Hoo, boy.

Shit got real-er:

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-26403996

The Ukrainian Army is now on full combat alert. The prospect that the centennial year of the First World War will see the first large-scale conventional European war in decades has risen exponentially.

[identity profile] malasadas.livejournal.com 2014-03-01 05:52 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh goody...it's 2008 again in these parts wherein a flock of previously unheard from Russian bloggers descend to explain to us how every place a Russian has taken a dump in the past 300 years is part of Russia.

Ukraine let Russia have most of the Black Sea Fleet and gave up all of the nuclear weapons the former USSR had in Ukraine in the 1990s. Part of the idea of these moves was that the newly formed Russian Federation would recognize the existing boundaries of the former Soviet states. No good, I suppose. Putin wants vassals instead of neighbors. If I were the government of a Baltic state right now, I'd be very nervous.
Edited 2014-03-01 17:54 (UTC)

[identity profile] htpcl.livejournal.com 2014-03-01 06:50 pm (UTC)(link)
It's almost as if they're totally not being hoarded in this direction.

[identity profile] malasadas.livejournal.com 2014-03-01 07:14 pm (UTC)(link)
LOOK!! IT'S THE RUSSIA SIGNAL!! SOMEONE IS DISCUSSING RUSSIA ON THE INTERNET! QUICK, BOY WONDER, TO THE RUSSIAMOBILE!!!!!!!

[identity profile] merig00.livejournal.com 2014-03-02 01:46 am (UTC)(link)
There were investigative articles in russian news papers about "blogger farms" offices, where people get paid to browse the next post pro-russia blogs and leave comments.

[identity profile] htpcl.livejournal.com 2014-03-02 08:11 am (UTC)(link)
Sounds so painfully familiar... Our political parties regularly do that during election time. :-/