ext_346115 ([identity profile] ddstory.livejournal.com) wrote in [community profile] talkpolitics2012-09-11 04:57 pm
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Al Qaeda's peace plan!

...Or rather, the plan of a self-appointed peace envoy who presumes to speak on behalf of the entire Al Qaeda (if such an organization really exists, as opposed to being a mere label which most extremists tend to stick to themselves at this point). Anyway, behold the ingenious plan:

http://edition.cnn.com/2012/09/10/world/meast/zawahiri-peace-plan/index.html

It has bullet points, OMG!

• U.S. and West to stop intervening in Muslim lands
• U.S. to stop interfering in Muslim education
• U.S. to end the war on Islam
• U.S. to release all Islamist prisoners.

Oh, he even has some instructions for his fellow Islamists, who should change their behavior and act nicely from now on:

• Stop attacks on Western and U.S. interests
• Protect legitimate Western and U.S. interests in Muslim lands
• Stop provoking the U.S. and the West

I say that's brilliant! And I wish him good luck with that!

Apparently, for some mysterious reason this guy believes he's in a unique position to end all the violence throughout all the Middle East and elsewhere around the world, simply by being Ayman al-Zawahiri's beloved brother. Like a Messiah, kindof. Well, sure, he hasn't met his famous bro for many years, since he has spent 14 years in Egyptian prison on charges of terrorism and conspiring for the Sadat assassination in 1981 (charges he keeps denying to this very day). But, on the other hand, Ayman is his brother, man! He must listen to him!

"I do not represent a particular group. My role is of a mediator between them and the West". Them, in this case, being "all Islamists". What's left for us is to wait and hope that his brother will listen to him, and peace and love between East and West will reign from now on, forever and ever.

By the way, Osama bin Laden did come up with a similar "peace" proposal back in 2004. It even had some bullet points, similar to this plan here. Obviously that worked pretty well for him. Maybe because he spent most of that typing space to rant about Halliburton and Bush, which, we have to admit, might've been quite fashionable at the time, but was more suitable for a Michael Moore "documentary", rather than a plan worth wasting anything beyond a cursory glance upon.

[identity profile] yes-justice.livejournal.com 2012-09-11 04:10 pm (UTC)(link)
Its not like everyone in our military industrial complex was willing to give peace a chance when Obama took office.

But, he's definitely a war president now.

[identity profile] mahnmut.livejournal.com 2012-09-11 04:14 pm (UTC)(link)
Curiously, some of the generals in your military look the most prone to giving peace a chance, like Petraeus (correct me if I'm wrong), and Powell (probably now feeling extremely guilty for being part of Rumsfeld's bullshit campaign that led to the war).

It has been said that every prez ought to have fought at least one war in their tenure. Those with two terms, probably two wars. W had 2 terms, started 2 wars. Obama? If Libya could count as a war, in case he gets a 2nd term, Iran looks like the most likely next target. Or Syria.

[identity profile] fizzyland.livejournal.com 2012-09-11 04:23 pm (UTC)(link)
I've noticed the uptick in 'Iran is close to unlocking Secret Death Ray achievement' stories of late.

[identity profile] mahnmut.livejournal.com 2012-09-11 04:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Gives you a sense of deja vu, doesn't it?

People have an attention span of mice.

[identity profile] fizzyland.livejournal.com 2012-09-11 04:40 pm (UTC)(link)
IT'S DEJA VU ALL OVER AGAIN HERE PEOPLE!

/you are now hearing the voice of Tommy Lee Jones

[identity profile] telemann.livejournal.com 2012-09-11 05:04 pm (UTC)(link)
I've noticed who the ones on LJ who are promoting that too.

[identity profile] telemann.livejournal.com 2012-09-11 06:26 pm (UTC)(link)
Mostly "libertarian" conservatives.

[identity profile] dexeron.livejournal.com 2012-09-11 06:34 pm (UTC)(link)
Hell, there was a lovely post to that effect just today even.

[identity profile] terminator44.livejournal.com 2012-09-11 04:43 pm (UTC)(link)
If you count East Africa (http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2012/01/battleground-africa/) and Yemen, then that's another two.
Edited 2012-09-11 16:43 (UTC)

[identity profile] mahnmut.livejournal.com 2012-09-11 04:45 pm (UTC)(link)
Fine, three 1/3s of a war make one whole war. :-)

[identity profile] underlankers.livejournal.com 2012-09-11 07:25 pm (UTC)(link)
The irony is that at one point US society held a standing army to be a menace to liberty and the survival of the Republic and paying for a school like West Point was the subject of regular and acrimonious debate. Things do change, all right. Not necessarily or even primarily for the better, however.

[identity profile] htpcl.livejournal.com 2012-09-11 04:15 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't know, when was the last POTUS who wasn't a war-time president?

[identity profile] underlankers.livejournal.com 2012-09-11 07:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Depending on what qualifies as a war.........arguably none of them.

[identity profile] htpcl.livejournal.com 2012-09-11 07:39 pm (UTC)(link)
War is when people are not being nice.

[identity profile] underlankers.livejournal.com 2012-09-11 08:33 pm (UTC)(link)
I meant more if people qualified the Indian Wars and the USA's endless occupations of certain Caribbean, Pacific, and Central American countries. If those are qualified, the USA has never had a peace President. And this would also pull in much more of the USA's pre-WWII pattern of calling guys like Papa Doc and Baby Doc "freedom", to say nothing of Batitsta and Trujillo.

[identity profile] vehemencet-t.livejournal.com 2012-09-11 09:31 pm (UTC)(link)
Calvin Coolidge ;)