ext_114329 ([identity profile] malasadas.livejournal.com) wrote in [community profile] talkpolitics2011-09-18 08:48 am
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Vladamir Putin -- The World's Most Interesting Man

In 2008, Russian President Vladamir Putin surprised many Russia observers by stepping aside after two consecutive terms in office instead of "requesting" a special set aside of Russia's Constitutional limitation on anyone holding the office for more than two CONSECUTIVE terms. It was less surprising that Putin protege Dmitri Medvedev succeeded him in office, and it was even less surprising when Putin won the office of Prime Minister, leading to the "tandem rule" of Russia's top offices.

President Medvedev's first term in office is up in 2012, and he has indicated that he will run for a second term. But complicating this are strong signals that Putin intends to stand for President again -- as is allowed by Russian law. Putin has cultivated quite an image for himself since he came into the public eye, and he has an extensive portfolio of photographs speaking to that image that he can use in an upcoming election in March of 2012:



Putin, test driving a Formula 1 race car:



Putin, and a Siberian tiger:



Putin, knowing Kung Fu:



Putin, on an archeological dive in Greece:



Putin, surfacing with ancient artifacts:



Putin, Bond Villain:



Putin, bending a frying pan with his bare hands:



Putin, shooting a crossbow....AT A WHALE



Putin, concert pianist:



Putin, piloting a submarine to 1400 feet below:



Putin, hugging a Bulgarian shepherd dog...possibly the nicest thing any Russian politician has done for anyone from Bulgaria:





The complete archive can be found at The Atlantic magazine.

Now, let me be clear: Americans are certainly not immune to being swayed by images of the macho man of action. Theodore Roosevelt made much of his subsequent career, including the Presidency, on The Battle of San Juan Hill. In more recent memory, Americans were treated to many photo ops of President Ronald Reagan chopping wood:



President George W. Bush clearing brush:



And the need for SOME manly credentials disasterously put Army veteran (but not combat veteran) Michael Dukakis into a tank for a photo op in his failed bid for President in 1988:



Looks like a Muppet, right?

On the other hand, the sheer vastness of Putin's photo stories and the presentation of him as practically an Ubermensch on par with anything either Nietzsche, Ayn Rand or Hitler could dream up is more than a little jarring to my own sensibilities, raises titters of laughter among American commentators --

-- and seems to work in Russia. The man has approval ratings most Western leaders would personally kill their own grandmothers to get.

Does the Putin phenomenon say something in general about politics around the globe...or something quite specific about Russia?

[identity profile] luzribeiro.livejournal.com 2011-09-18 12:56 pm (UTC)(link)
This is interesting, but please could you cut more, good Sir?

[identity profile] htpcl.livejournal.com 2011-09-18 12:58 pm (UTC)(link)
Awww sheperd puppies! Gotta love them Russkies.

[identity profile] underlankers.livejournal.com 2011-09-18 12:59 pm (UTC)(link)
I think it says more about the place he used to work at. Bush, Reagan, Dukakis....none of them ever heard or aimed a shot fired in anger. Putin was an agent of the KGB, the guys who made mass murder the business of the Soviet state. Means him doing this is more believable than the others.

[identity profile] mahnmut.livejournal.com 2011-09-18 01:04 pm (UTC)(link)
It says that people are dumb in their vast majority, and pandering to the lowest denominator is a flawless path to election victory. Next question please?

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[identity profile] brockulfsen.livejournal.com 2011-09-18 01:48 pm (UTC)(link)
I suspect it is directly proportional to vodka consumption.

[identity profile] htpcl.livejournal.com 2011-09-18 02:06 pm (UTC)(link)
5-6 years of working mainly with Russian customers have taught me one few things:

1) In Russia, the man makes the money and brings it home.
2) The woman rules in the house, the man is anonymous.
3) The man goes to work, returns home, drinks to oblivion, then goes to work again next day.
4) The woman looks after the kids, washes, cooks, and goes to the hairdresser.
5) After some years, the man has run out of money, has run out of a liver, the woman gets a divorce and takes the apartment and the kids. The man is left with his stockpiles of vodka, and possibly the car (Lada or Moskvich).

Whenever there's a Russian family coming here to buy property, it's always the woman who does the talking. The man does the nodding and the paying. When the notary documents are being signed, the woman always features first in the document, and her share (at least 50%, if not more) of the ownership on the property is always explicitly stated in the documents. To avoid further misunderstandings, that is. ;-)

Otherwise, Russian men like to be macho, and Russian women like to see machos around. At least in public, that is.

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Two brothers, John, and Bob, who lived in America and were members of the communist party, decided to emigrate to the USSR. Even though they didn't believe the American media's negative reports on the conditions in the USSR, they decided to exercise caution. First, only John would go to Russia to test the waters. If, contrary to the media reports, the living conditions would be found good, and the reports about persecutions by the KGB false, than John would write a letter to Bob using black ink whose color would signify that the letter is to be taken at face value. If, though, the situation in the USSR happened to be bad, and John would be afraid of writing the truth, he would use red ink thus indicating that whatever he says in the letter must not be believed.
In three months John sent his first report. It was in black ink and read, "Dear brother Bob! I'm so happy here! It's a beautiful country, I enjoy complete freedom, and high standard of living. All the capitalist press wrote was lies. Everything is readily available! There is only one small thing of which there's shortage, namely red ink."


/also:

awww, cute puppy!!

[identity profile] abomvubuso.livejournal.com 2011-09-18 02:28 pm (UTC)(link)
That's a good one :)

[identity profile] htpcl.livejournal.com 2011-09-18 07:19 pm (UTC)(link)
Image

[identity profile] luvdovz.livejournal.com 2011-09-18 02:11 pm (UTC)(link)
Isn't he Vladimir? Misspelling his name could get you into big trouble, you know! You wanna have a knock at your door late at night, eh??

USA! USA! USA!

[identity profile] oportet.livejournal.com 2011-09-18 03:52 pm (UTC)(link)
Our leaders can fake it to a point - but they're going to get caught trying to bowl, or trying to throw out a first pitch, and then - well none of us know exactly what follows, because our palms are covering our eyes.

Re: USA! USA! USA!

[identity profile] luzribeiro.livejournal.com 2011-09-18 04:09 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes, god forbid a politician can actually ride a horse and shoot with a crossbow. Their only weapon should be the pen.

Re: USA! USA! USA!

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[identity profile] abomvubuso.livejournal.com 2011-09-18 04:27 pm (UTC)(link)
Guy's apparently having a lotta fun.

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[identity profile] meindampf.livejournal.com 2011-09-18 05:34 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't think it's a pure Slavic thing. Much of his PR aims not at us, russkies, but at you. Whenever he "saves" tigers, whales, white bears, fur-seals … or sings in English applauded by western stars in order to fight cancer for the sake children - he is doing it for you. His interests are far beyond simply Russian. He knows your weaknesses quite well too, which is what you've just proved calling him "the most interesting man". Don't say then you were not informed.

[identity profile] musicpsych.livejournal.com 2011-09-18 10:21 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm not the OP, but I think the "most interesting man" part was based on this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Most_Interesting_Man_in_the_World

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[identity profile] meus-ovatio.livejournal.com 2011-09-18 05:52 pm (UTC)(link)
I have to confess, if I were a powerful man, I would have photo-ops of me flicking people off and taking the day off Because I Can. I'd come out of the White House with my Presidential bathrobe and a mug of coffee and a cigarette hangin' out my mouth and tell all the protestors and media types to get off my damn lawn and go get a job!

[identity profile] meus-ovatio.livejournal.com 2011-09-18 05:55 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh and with my favorite pink fluffy bunny slippers too.

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[identity profile] adrunkencadence.livejournal.com 2011-09-18 06:09 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm a Russkophile. I know enough to say it's a Russian thing. I don't know enough to say why exactly.

However, I can provide this true fact presentation:

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[identity profile] sandwichwarrior.livejournal.com 2011-09-18 06:21 pm (UTC)(link)
Ok, that's funny right thar.

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[identity profile] policraticus.livejournal.com 2011-09-18 06:16 pm (UTC)(link)
All Putin needs is a wheel chair and a white Persian cat, amirite?

I know Ernst Stavro Blofeld...

[identity profile] 404.livejournal.com 2011-09-18 07:02 pm (UTC)(link)
And Putin isn't Blofelt.

Now if he shows up with a monocle and scar over his eye...

[identity profile] sandwichwarrior.livejournal.com 2011-09-18 06:28 pm (UTC)(link)
Arabs would say that he has "Baraka" wich translates as an odd mix of Luck, Balls, and God's own grace. There is something in the depths of our deepes monkey brains that sees this an wants to emulate/follow it. A chieftan who doesn't have it isn't worth following.

Like all politicians, he's appealing to the lowest common denominator. Unlike most politicians he's actually got the skills to pull it off and look good doing so.

[identity profile] il-mio-gufo.livejournal.com 2011-09-19 01:02 am (UTC)(link)
yah, he doesn't really give off the same 'vibe' as most US politicians might...

[identity profile] il-mio-gufo.livejournal.com 2011-09-19 12:56 am (UTC)(link)
damn! concert pianist?

[identity profile] mikeyxw.livejournal.com 2011-09-19 05:10 am (UTC)(link)
We take care to eliminate anyone with enough personality establish a cult of personality during the primaries. We simply don't want our President to be likable, it's bad policy.

Also, aw... puppies.

[identity profile] mahnmut.livejournal.com 2011-09-19 11:31 am (UTC)(link)
Is that why you guys always elect good-looking men for presidents?

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Putin and Bush

[identity profile] sophia-sadek.livejournal.com 2011-09-19 05:14 pm (UTC)(link)
Bush recounts a breakfast in Crawford, Texas where Putin advised him to come down on the press with a heavy hand. Here is an action photo from Bush's book:

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Re: Putin and Bush

[identity profile] mahnmut.livejournal.com 2011-09-19 08:58 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh look! Putin is about to teach Bush how to use a fork and knife!