ext_6933 ([identity profile] sophia-sadek.livejournal.com) wrote in [community profile] talkpolitics2011-08-09 08:28 am
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The Losing Game

When 9-11 when down my first analysis of the affair was to compare Christian fundamentalism with Muslim fundamentalism. Kamikaze Muslim fundamentalists were clearly willing to die for the freedom of their own people. What about Christian fundamentalists? They seem to only be willing for others to die for the freedom of fundamentalist action. As we can see by the recent deaths of the hit men who carried out the assassination of bin Laden, the whole affair is a lose-lose situation for both sides. Let's face it: fundamentalism is for losers.

William Casey saw warfare in economic terms. In his time the bigger economy prevailed. Perhaps he would seek out the bigger economy that was propping up the Taliban and al-Qaeda. He would trace their funding through Pakistan and Saudi Arabia to find that his own policies have pitted the US against the US. Two factions of religious bigotry supplied by petro-dollars butt heads with each other in a race to the bottom. Which will be the biggest loser?


(BTW, my observations on Christian fundamentalist cowardice predated my learning about Air Force policies of promoting dominionism and protecting their pilots from enemy capture.)

[identity profile] a-new-machine.livejournal.com 2011-08-09 05:36 pm (UTC)(link)
So if Christians were violent, you'd call them terrorists kamikazes, probably crazy, and definitely unworthy of their professed ideals. That Christians are not violent apparently doesn't show non-violence, but cowardice.

So which path should Christians take to not earn your derision? Or do you just look down on them for being Christian?

[identity profile] sammipunk.livejournal.com 2011-08-09 06:01 pm (UTC)(link)

Not violent? Did you forget Oslo? Wow.

[identity profile] a-new-machine.livejournal.com 2011-08-09 06:05 pm (UTC)(link)
I was going off of the premise stated by sophia_sadek, that fundamentalists are non-violent cowards. The point is that she has determined that Christians are Bad People(tm) and is borrowing 9/11 to prove that they're just weaker-willed than their Muslim counterparts. Since I was attempting to show bad reasoning, not bad facts, I don't see how Oslo is relevant.

[identity profile] the-rukh.livejournal.com 2011-08-09 06:10 pm (UTC)(link)
No I think she said cowards because they'd rather take other people's lives than sacrifice their own. I think that pretty much negates any form of 'nonviolent'.

[identity profile] gunslnger.livejournal.com 2011-08-09 08:51 pm (UTC)(link)
That's just an incorrect definition of coward then.

[identity profile] the-rukh.livejournal.com 2011-08-09 09:08 pm (UTC)(link)
Its not my definition.