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talkpolitics2011-02-02 01:11 pm
Are ACORN and Planned Parent hood using the same staffing agency?
My questions are:
1) Why does this keep happening?
a. Consider that in 2008 Planned Parenthood had a similar mistake happen.
b. How many times does it need to happen to be no longer a ‘mistake’ and we question their
2) I believe that liberalism/progressivism/Democrats are inherently good and caring people. Is it that natural inclination to be caring that is somehow warpped their decision making ability when confronted with this sort of Evil? Are they being dupped into thinking they are ‘helping’ these children/young teenage girls by allowing some man to abuse them?
3) Can we have this dialog without it going to the abortion issue? I’d like the discussion to be about LiveAction/Planned Parenthood/ACORN and the acceptance of underage sex workers.
A Planned Parenthood manager in New Jersey coaches a man and a woman posing as sex traffickers how to secure secret abortions, STD testing, and contraception for their female underage sex slaves, and make their whole operation “look as legit as possible” in an undercover video released this morning.
Clinic manager Amy Woodruff, LPN, of Planned Parenthood Central New Jersey’s Perth Amboy center, warns the pimp and his prostitute to have their trafficked underage girls lie about their age to avoid mandatory reporting laws, promising, “even if they lie, just say, ‘Oh he's the same age as me, 15,’…it's just that mainly 14 and under we have to, doesn't matter if their partner's the same age, younger, whatever, 14 and under we have to report.” She says, “For the most part, we want as little information as possible.”
“If they're minors, put down that they're students. Yeah, just kind of play along that they’re students--we want to make it look as legit as possible.”
“This proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that Planned Parenthood intentionally breaks state and federal laws and covers up the abuse of the young girls it claims to serve,” said Lila Rose, President of Live Action
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/vid-shows-planned-parenthood-advising-pretend-pimp-about-underage-sex-slaves/
Planned Parenthood fired Amy Woodruff the manager. Is that enough? Shouldn't strong policies be put in place so this doesn't happen again?
This isn't Planned Parenthoods first time offense against children
The Mona Lisa Project videos document Planned Parenthood's willingness to repeatedly violate mandatory reporting laws for statutory rape that protect children.
http://liveaction.org/monalisa <-- 2008
http://www.frugal-cafe.com/public_html/frugal-blog/frugal-cafe-blogzone/2009/09/14/acorn-sex-scandal-now-a-triology-okeefe-exposes-again-in-new-york-city-video/ <-ACORN sex scadal.
The similarity of these scandals bothers me a lot. Where are these liberal groups failing to train their employees/managers!? What policies and procedures are missing that would allow the ACORN manager or the Planned Parenthood manager to think that discussing child prostitution rings with a man would ever be okay? I've been in middle management for a long time now and after a few years you just become indoctrinated into the Corporate policy. I find myself towing the line all the time. Why aren't these managers doing the same? I know in my heart of hears that ACORN and Planned Parenthood don’t officially condone this sort of EVIL. Why is Live Action repeatedly able to find those individuals who are in charge (that’s important. They are the leaders not just some flunkies) who’d help out such a sick bastard.
ACORN’s focus was housing and not nearly as well funded as Planned Parenthood ($374.7 million 2008). They have the revenue to train better. They should not be making this sort of grievous and awful mistake. Especially after 2008. Fool me once shame on you...fool me twice...loss of funding?
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"These multi-state visits from men claiming to be engaged in sex trafficking of minors may be a hoax," Cecile Richards, president of Planned Parenthood, wrote in a letter to Attorney General Eric Holder last week. "However, if the representations made by this man are true," she wrote, they indicate violations of several sex trafficking, prostitution and child sex laws.
A spokeswoman for Planned Parenthood would not reveal the identity of the man, or men, who visited the clinics. The group does, however, suspect he has ties to Live Action, the pro-life, anti-Planned Parenthood group run by O'Keefe associate Lila Rose.
http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/01/is_it_a_underage_sex_slave_ring_or_a_hoax_either_w.php#
it sounds ilke their only motivation to notify Eric Holder was because they thought it was Live Action doing this.
Would they do this if they didn't think it was a sting? In 2008 they didn't.
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So let's get this straight.
On one hand, you have Live Action, who act like they're committing a crime in order to entrap Planned Parenthood. They're heroes, because they exposed the fact that Planned Parenthood didn't... what? Immediately throw the person out? Tackle the person and make a citizen's arrest? What should the correct answer in this situation have been?
On the other hand, you have Planned Parenthood, who act like they're nodding along and saying it's totally cool to bring victimized women to their clinic, in order to entrap an alleged sex offender and child trafficker through collaboration with the FBI.
Is your assessment that it's okay for Live Action to act like they're supportive of criminal acts in order to catch criminals, yet if Planned Parenthood does it they're atrocious human beings who deserve to be expelled from society?
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Didn't say that it was illegal and that they couldn't help them out.
Proof that they were collaborating on anything?
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And yet, they apparently did the wrong thing.
What should they have done?
Proof that they were collaborating on anything?
The fact that they contacted the FBI, for starters.
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You misunderstand. The other guys are heroes because PP didn't say it was illegal and that they couldn't help them. That's what they should have done.
That was after the fact. That's not evidence they were cooperating beforehand.
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Sure, that's the best way for Planned Parenthood to cover their asses, but exactly how does that get the girls to safety? If anything, that would encourage the child trafficker to take the girls somewhere more dangerous to get the abortions, which would put their lives in danger.
Unless you're comfortable with Planned Parenthood saying a morally correct "no" as opposed to clearly playing along, at the expense of having young women risk death and further abuse.
That was after the fact. That's not evidence they were cooperating beforehand.
It's very interesting that the whole "told the FBI" part seems to not matter at all.
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Is it totally outside the realm of possibility for the Planned Parenthood staff to be thinking about ways to get the pimp to bring the underage prostitutes to the office, and try to help the girls get to safety?
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Before what? Before someone came to their office?
Do you expect PP to be staffed with psychics who will notify the FBI before something happens?
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