ext_6933 ([identity profile] sophia-sadek.livejournal.com) wrote in [community profile] talkpolitics2010-12-23 09:30 am
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Rendering unto Caesar: Clarification on Flat-Earth Religion

Before the sixth century of the Common Era, the most educated people in Afro-Eurasia had the capacity to perceive the rotation of the Earth. In the next level down the ladder of education, the Earth's curvature was recognized, but the Earth was perceived as static. The majority of people conceived of the Earth as flat. They lacked the level of knowledge and experience needed to think of the Earth in any other way. By what process did the people of the third tier of education take control of the Roman Church?

Although the Trinity was crafted in the fourth century, it was not until the sixth century that the iron curtain of ignorance and superstition descended. For two hundred years, people who knew better rejected the bold-faced lie that Athanasius, Alexander, and Constantine had concocted as a loyalty oath. How did Justinian succeed in revolutionizing education to the point of crippling it for centuries to come?

When the Roman Church attacked the established educational system, the people with the highest level of education exiled themselves to domains outside of Roman authority. As ignorant priests snuffed out the light of understanding in the Roman world, the torch bearers carried the flame to more fertile territory. Before the sixth century, the top minds of the Roman Church were drop-outs from the second tier educational institutions. After the sixth century, there were no schools from which to drop out. People who sought knowledge had to leave the domain of the Church in order to find it. Later, Islam became the harbor for educational institutions as it jealously guarded the jewels of the classical world.

In the early centuries of the Common Era, second tier scholars had recorded the work of first tier scholars. They ridiculed their superiors for failing to see stars moving around the Earth. When third tier priests and monks encountered the literature of second tier educators, they accepted the work as gospel truth. Little did they know how little the Peripatetics knew. Thomas Aquinas was just such a monk. He was instrumental in establishing Peripatetic ignorance as Church policy. It was enough light to spark an economic renaissance, but not enough to disperse the shadow world of Roman power. It would take the martyrdom of Copernicus, Bruno and Galileo to pierce the veil of Roman superstition.

To this day, Romans still affirm their loyalty using the Caesarian oath. Those who know the lie behind the oath are considered outside and opposed to "Christianity." Do you espouse the bald-faced lie of trinitarian dogma?

Re: Luddite!

[identity profile] green-man-2010.livejournal.com 2010-12-28 10:23 am (UTC)(link)
To be honest, I am with Terry pratchett on this one - gods get recycled, and older beliefs get incorporated into new belief systems in order to facilitate their use by new believers.

The fact is that jeremiah complianed that people in Jerusalem were bowing down to 'the Queen of Heaven ', even in his day. So it comes as no suprise that the Catholic Church has venerated Mary, the mother of christ, by giving her the same title. It also comes as no suprise that the cult of Mother and Child, known as far afeild as ancient Egypt, has also been incorporated into Christianity. And yes, the Trinity , as the concept of a god as a triad, has also got very ancient roots.

Jesus morphs from being an itinerate preacher with some rather unusual powers in the Gospel of Mark, into being The Logos, a being begotten not created, the one for whom and through all things were made, the one whome monotheistic disciples actually worshipped and even prayed to in the space of a few decades.

To argue whether Jesus was Divine or not is to ignore an awful lot of the Canonical texts. See, as I said, I didn't come to a Trinitarian reading by default. for you to say to me that a trinitarian reading is wrong is an extra ordinary claim requiring extra ordinary evidence. If you want to plead that the text we have is innaccurate - then you have to show the verses, as they appear in other MMS, and show why those MMS are to be ranked above those used in producing the NEB.

I really think this should go to 'Convert me', you know...