ext_114329 ([identity profile] malasadas.livejournal.com) wrote in [community profile] talkpolitics2010-11-23 07:06 am
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Simple Question of International Import

What are the odds that this gets a LOT worse by the traditional spring time offensive season when a young general's fancy turns to invasion?

Brief timeline:

North Korea is accused of torpedoing a South Korean warship.

South Korea fires at North Korean fishing boats crossing the maritime border North Korea refuses to recognize.

North Korea is revealed to have highly modern facilities for nuclear material enrichment.

Not to mention, North Korea is facing the challenge of passing along the regime to a third generation of the Kim family.

North Korea is known for rattling its sabre and demanding to have attention paid to it when it is being ignored, but this is looking like a very different than recent years -- South Korea really has to retaliate...and half of South Korea's population lives in the Seoul metropolitan area within artillery range of the DMZ.

So a question -- is North Korea suicidal or are they betting that this behavior can get them some more winter grain shipments?

[identity profile] taurus-1.livejournal.com 2010-11-23 03:15 pm (UTC)(link)
That's what North Koreans want.
At the opposite POV, I don't know what South Koreans want. I can't imagine they want DPRK should be occupied too. Integrate broken families -- yes. Occupy the whole Korean peninsula -- no.

[identity profile] htpcl.livejournal.com 2010-11-23 03:19 pm (UTC)(link)
But North Koreans are 1/3 of all Koreans. They may want lots of things but have they asked the remaining 2/3 of the Koreans what THEY want?

No-one wants to occupy North Korea right now. Everyone just wants them to stop acting like insane drunken teens.

[identity profile] dwer.livejournal.com 2010-11-23 08:37 pm (UTC)(link)
we have no idea what North Koreans want. We know what the LEADERSHIP of North Korea wants. I'll bet you a dollar legitimate currency like a ruble that most North Koreans would like food, shelter and maybe a nice show like Graham Norton to watch on the telly.

[identity profile] underlankers.livejournal.com 2010-11-23 10:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Abolishing the prison camps and police state apparatus would probably be a good start, too.

[identity profile] dwer.livejournal.com 2010-11-24 04:54 am (UTC)(link)
oh, sure, but I figure that was already on the table. :D

[identity profile] taurus-1.livejournal.com 2010-11-24 07:58 am (UTC)(link)
People of DPRK support their government, isn't it? It seems they like this style of life, if Kims are still in charge.

[identity profile] abomvubuso.livejournal.com 2010-11-24 09:10 am (UTC)(link)
Man, thats simply... crazy.

Ever heard of brainwashing? And/or fear of political persecution?

I think you have. Given your apparent origin.

[identity profile] taurus-1.livejournal.com 2010-11-24 09:14 am (UTC)(link)
Not only heard ;)
I'm learning to handle it inside this community as well.

[identity profile] abomvubuso.livejournal.com 2010-11-24 09:42 am (UTC)(link)
To each according to their respective biases ;)

[identity profile] taurus-1.livejournal.com 2010-11-24 10:05 am (UTC)(link)
Sure. Chatting with you guys help me a lot to see different views of an event. Every message received is biased to accomodate transmitter's goals. But there is always the true part of event and a noise covering it, we just need to filter it up with the right stuff.
Thanks for your thoughts!

[identity profile] abomvubuso.livejournal.com 2010-11-24 11:29 am (UTC)(link)
Pretty much. I think you might find this (http://community.livejournal.com/talk_politics/437151.html) interesting.

[identity profile] htpcl.livejournal.com 2010-11-24 04:14 pm (UTC)(link)
No way. He's dead serious. He's Russian.

[identity profile] dwer.livejournal.com 2010-11-24 04:26 pm (UTC)(link)
but that's ridiculous.

[identity profile] dwer.livejournal.com 2010-11-24 04:44 pm (UTC)(link)
In Soviet Russia, pictures macro you!

[identity profile] underlankers.livejournal.com 2010-11-24 04:22 pm (UTC)(link)
They support it as much as blacks supported the Confederate States of America.