ext_42513 ([identity profile] verytwistedmind.livejournal.com) wrote in [community profile] talkpolitics2010-11-01 12:16 pm

Gay as a pejorative


“Ladies and Gentlemen, electric cars are gay,” Vaughn’s character Ronnie Valentine says. “I mean, not ‘homosexual’ gay, but ‘my parents are chaperoning the dance gay.”

-         The Dilemma

 

This preview has been getting a lot of negative press because of the use of the word ‘gay’ as a pejorative.

This is a pet peeve of mine among young people. I’ve noticed that 10-19 year olds seem to default to ‘gay’ way too much. So for me, it’s not a question of sensitivity to treatment of homosexuals as it is to the lame minds of our youth.

Ron Howard has said he will not remove this comment from the movie. I kind of think it fits the sort of comment and back peddle you typically hear from a Vince Vaughn character.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/the_big_picture/2010/10/ron-howard-on-the-dilemmas-gay-joke-it-stays-in-the-movie.html

So my questions:

1)       What do you do when you hear someone say “that’s gay” as a pejorative?

a.       What is a more apropos term/slang? I don’t want ‘lame’ coming back because of my time spent in the 80s…. I feel ‘lame’ is the gateway word to ‘gnarly’. Gnarly makes me want to gag myself with a spoon…like totally.

2)       Are you planning on seeing this movie? Does the ‘gay’ comment affect your decision?

3)      Is it okay to call Sponge Bob and Flapjack gay okay? I mean…come on they are gay..right?        


Re: Responding to you and not the long thread afterwards...

[identity profile] nikoel.livejournal.com 2010-11-02 01:59 am (UTC)(link)
The point is that someone who has a disability might be offended and hurt by hearing the word lame regardless of what you think of when you say it. Context matters, but when someone tells you you're being offensive by using a certain word, your intent simply does not matter. If you continue to use a word that you don't find offensive but someone else has already explained to you why it is offensive, that only shows your actions as uncaring regardless of whether you actually are ableist.