ext_90803 ([identity profile] badlydrawnjeff.livejournal.com) wrote in [community profile] talkpolitics2010-08-24 08:19 pm
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How to Fix What Ails Us

Intel's CEO, Paul Otellini, had some fairly harsh words for the folks in power this week:

Otellini singled out the political state of affairs in Democrat-dominated Washington, saying: "I think this group does not understand what it takes to create jobs. And I think they're flummoxed by their experiment in Keynesian economics not working."

Since an unusually sharp downturn accelerated in late 2008, the Obama administration and its allies in the U.S. Congress have enacted trillions in deficit spending they say will create an economic stimulus -- but have not extended the Bush tax cuts and have pushed to levy extensive new health care and carbon regulations on businesses.

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As a result, he said, "every business in America has a list of more variables than I've ever seen in my career." If variables like capital gains taxes and the R&D tax credit are resolved correctly, jobs will stay here, but if politicians make decisions "the wrong way, people will not invest in the United States. They'll invest elsewhere."

Take factories. "I can tell you definitively that it costs $1 billion more per factory for me to build, equip, and operate a semiconductor manufacturing facility in the United States," Otellini said.
The rub: Ninety percent of that additional cost of a $4 billion factory is not labor but the cost to comply with taxes and regulations that other nations don't impose. (Cypress Semiconductor CEO T.J. Rodgers elaborated on this in an interview with CNET, saying the problem is not higher U.S. wages but anti-business laws: "The killer factor in California for a manufacturer to create, say, a thousand blue-collar jobs is a hostile government that doesn't want you there and demonstrates it in thousands of ways.")

"If our tax rate approached that of the rest of the world, corporations would have an incentive to invest here," Otellini said. But instead, it's the second highest in the industrialized world, making the United States a less attractive place to invest--and create jobs--than places in Europe and Asia that are "clamoring" for Intel's business.


This is similar, as CNet reports, to what Carly Fiorina had to say on the matter, with the difference being that Otenelli isn't running for office. But clearly the business class is less concerned about speaking up right now.

We do need to think ahead to what's going to fix the problems, though. "Unexpectedly," unemployment claims are increasing again, home sales are in decline, and the stimulus, which was supposed to save us all, has "done exactly as we expected it to", which is to mean not performed as intended at all.

So let's see - we have a failed stimulus, a looming tax hike, new costs associated with health care and financial reforms, and businesses are not spending money in anticipation of this uncertainty. What's the way out? How do we fix this problem? Where do we go from here?

[identity profile] mrbogey.livejournal.com 2010-08-25 01:40 am (UTC)(link)
Henry Morgenthau, Roosevelt's Tresury guy, admitted it failed.


“We have tried spending money. We are spending more than we have ever spent before and it does not work. And I have just one interest, and if I am wrong…somebody else can have my job. I want to see this country prosperous. I want to see people get a job. I want to see people get enough to eat. We have never made good on our promises…I say after eight years of this administration we have just as much unemployment as when we started…And an enormous debt to boot!”

You see the point of the spending was to get the economy going. All we saw was little to no growth in the private sector and tons of debt spending in the public sector. So yea, people had work, only because of the gov't. But the point of those jobs was to "prime the pump", as Keynesians like to say, and that simply didn't happen.

The dip that happened in the middle was because the government slowed down their spending and clearly the markets had not recovered as the gov't promised.

[identity profile] dwer.livejournal.com 2010-08-25 01:47 am (UTC)(link)
yes. The government slowed down the spending too early. That's the point. It was working, but the private sector wasn't ready yet.

[identity profile] mrbogey.livejournal.com 2010-08-25 01:53 am (UTC)(link)
'It was working, but the private sector wasn't ready yet.'

It was working although it had little effect on the private sector after nearly two presidential terms?

Can I just sell you a bridge in Brooklyn?

[identity profile] dwer.livejournal.com 2010-08-25 01:57 am (UTC)(link)
it's funny, because the people you should be mad at are the people who made the bad investments, and made off with the cash, leaving everyone else to dangle.

[identity profile] dwer.livejournal.com 2010-08-25 02:06 am (UTC)(link)
it's funny, because you're off base again. As usual.

[identity profile] telemann.livejournal.com 2010-08-25 02:06 am (UTC)(link)
New York state considering bringing charges against Stank of America, Ken Thorne for his lying during the merger with Merill Lynch. A Federal judge even questioned federal prosecutors in some of the settlement cases why no criminal charges have been brought against some bank officers, saying that the stockholders are going to be hit twice for their mismanagement.

[identity profile] telemann.livejournal.com 2010-08-25 02:12 am (UTC)(link)
Watch George Will get spanked by Krugman. (http://videocafe.crooksandliars.com/heather/george-will-wants-know-why-there-are-any-r)

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[identity profile] mrbogey.livejournal.com 2010-08-25 02:53 am (UTC)(link)
Do you understand the figures you posted and why they're meaningless?

[identity profile] reality-hammer.livejournal.com 2010-08-27 03:35 am (UTC)(link)
Joe Biden!

"Recovery decade"!

[identity profile] geezer-also.livejournal.com 2010-08-25 01:47 am (UTC)(link)
There you go, countering emotion with facts again.

[identity profile] geezer-also.livejournal.com 2010-08-25 02:20 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah really.........

I know we (well not me, cuz this is economics) can play dueling statistics all night, but it is a lot easier to do "not Really" "Yeah really" so I really appreciate that.

[identity profile] geezer-also.livejournal.com 2010-08-25 02:24 am (UTC)(link)
Excuse me while I go ruin my mind and try to read "Eclipse"

[identity profile] telemann.livejournal.com 2010-08-25 02:27 am (UTC)(link)
Be sure to wash that bad book aftertaste with a few hot episodes of True Blood, yo!

[identity profile] htpcl.livejournal.com 2010-08-25 09:23 am (UTC)(link)
LOL.