http://green-man-2010.livejournal.com/ ([identity profile] green-man-2010.livejournal.com) wrote in [community profile] talkpolitics2010-05-29 10:03 am
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I have seen the future, and I doesn't like it.

Life after the oil crash.
Ok, last time, I went and pinned it on a vid that most people cannot read at work.
So I am letting y'all boot up something you can read quitely when you oght to be working :)

http://www.lifeaftertheoilcrash.net/

In case you have trouble reading graphs, this one has a Blue Peter style 'talk you through the implications' - complete with original sources, for those who wanna check.

It might seem like I am doom mongering , but I just want to say -
Let's put more into Planned Parenthood, make it optional, but make it a damned sight easier at home and abroad.

Let's have oil rationing, sooner rather than later. Let's also have everything rationed if it's made with oil.

let's try to be civilised about the few resources left and share them out among ourselves.

Let's start reducing consumption , reusing things and recycling more.

let's remember that civilisation as we know it will be over by 2050, if it lasts that long.

[identity profile] devil-ad-vocate.livejournal.com 2010-05-29 10:24 pm (UTC)(link)
To extract shale oil, we would have to dig up hundreds of square miles of North America; and not one single refinery for processing shale oil currently exists. I would rather put my money on developing an interstellar warp drive engine.

[identity profile] sgiffy.livejournal.com 2010-05-29 10:50 pm (UTC)(link)
You mean like we do already for coal or other things we mine. It's not easy but it's doable and profitable with oil around a hundred bucks a barrel.

[identity profile] devil-ad-vocate.livejournal.com 2010-05-30 12:56 am (UTC)(link)
$85-$110 per barrel will be the average over the next couple of years, but it's primarily due to the lack of refining capabilities. There hasn't been a new refinery built in the U.S. for over twenty years.

It would take at least a sustained $140 per barrel to convince investors to put money into shale oil extraction.