http://green-man-2010.livejournal.com/ ([identity profile] green-man-2010.livejournal.com) wrote in [community profile] talkpolitics2010-05-29 10:03 am
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I have seen the future, and I doesn't like it.

Life after the oil crash.
Ok, last time, I went and pinned it on a vid that most people cannot read at work.
So I am letting y'all boot up something you can read quitely when you oght to be working :)

http://www.lifeaftertheoilcrash.net/

In case you have trouble reading graphs, this one has a Blue Peter style 'talk you through the implications' - complete with original sources, for those who wanna check.

It might seem like I am doom mongering , but I just want to say -
Let's put more into Planned Parenthood, make it optional, but make it a damned sight easier at home and abroad.

Let's have oil rationing, sooner rather than later. Let's also have everything rationed if it's made with oil.

let's try to be civilised about the few resources left and share them out among ourselves.

Let's start reducing consumption , reusing things and recycling more.

let's remember that civilisation as we know it will be over by 2050, if it lasts that long.

[identity profile] eracerhead.livejournal.com 2010-05-30 02:58 am (UTC)(link)
[Does it truly matter where the energy derives from so long as it can be utilized?]

Depends. Using it in the way we do now, it certainly does, we have become used to having cheap energy.

[Then there isn't and we shouldn't bother trying and should just wait for the inevitable doom and collapse. It's entirely your choice; I'm not fashed about it.]

Actually, I'm saying exactly the opposite. Part of that plan is reducing consumption.

[Fix it or accept your fate, one or the other. But don't bitch about it unless you can fix it. Bitching doesn't fix anything, doesn't raise awareness, and doesn't change anything. Why use it as an outlet for your frustrations when you have more productive outlets to utilize? It's damned stupid.]

Do you have me confused with some other poster?
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[identity profile] mrsilence.livejournal.com 2010-05-30 04:24 am (UTC)(link)
When you figure out how to MAKE people do that, you let me know.


People can make themselves do anything, provided you give them a good enough reason.


Part of the solution is to let people aware of the problems that will arise if they don't reduce consumption, and probably more importantly subject to those consequences.

[identity profile] eracerhead.livejournal.com 2010-05-30 12:20 pm (UTC)(link)
[Nope. It's just either a fixable situation, in which case there's nothing to worry about as we will fix it, or it's not fixable, in which case there's no point in worrying about it as there is nothing you can do it about. Thus, any worrying/bitching/griping/etc is illogical, and therefore, unnecessary.}

So in other words, this will either be fixed by someone else, or it is inevitable. In the meantime you have no role in the situation.
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[identity profile] eracerhead.livejournal.com 2010-05-30 12:57 pm (UTC)(link)
If the price of gasoline rose to $25 per gallon tomorrow, would you change your habits? Why wait?