http://oportet.livejournal.com/ ([identity profile] oportet.livejournal.com) wrote in [community profile] talkpolitics2010-04-27 10:09 am
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I'm not a liberal, but if I was, I can't imagine what I would have against the Tea Party movement - so hopefully a liberal/democrat could help me out with this.

I understand the movement is made up mostly of conservatives, so wouldn't that either be a good, or at worst, neutral thing for you when elections come around?

Sure, the Tea Party isn't an official party with representatives, but when a big (or the big) election comes around, they'll most likely endorse someone (If they don't, that would fall under neutral). If the person/people they back are Republican, you saw it coming, and you'll pretty much have the same outcome there would have been if the TP never existed (again, neutral result). If the person/people they back aren't Republican, it wouldn't be taking many, if any, votes away from your side - nowhere near the number it would be taking away from Republicans (this would fall under good for you).

Or am I missing something?

We have nothing to fear, but fear itself.

[identity profile] sophia-sadek.livejournal.com 2010-04-27 11:52 pm (UTC)(link)
You have confessed, "I raise my two boys to be God fearing." When this is translated into a coherent lingual system it comes out something like, "I indoctrinate my children in a regime of superstitious cowardice." Someday, your children will look back on their cult indoctrination and have nothing but pity for the people who led them down that path.

Repent! The end is near.

Re: We have nothing to fear, but fear itself.

[identity profile] rainynights.livejournal.com 2010-04-28 06:21 am (UTC)(link)
To each their own. I love my savior and would rather teach my boys hope than anything this world has to offer. I do not make fun of your beliefs do not make fun of mine.

I am sorry you think having hope in Jesus Christ is cult indoctrination. I feel sorry for you. One day while I am in Heaven with my family and your in Hell we shall see who was right.

Churches help kids stay off drugs and stay out of trouble and God forbid you know wow helping people stay off drugs wow that is awful right?

Im will not be responding to anymore of your hate so don't waste your time.

Re: We have nothing to fear, but fear itself.

[identity profile] sophia-sadek.livejournal.com 2010-04-28 10:44 pm (UTC)(link)
If Jesus heard what you say about him, he'd roll over in his sepulcher.

Re: We have nothing to fear, but fear itself.

[identity profile] light-over-me.livejournal.com 2010-04-28 06:34 pm (UTC)(link)
That is pretty offensive and judgmental right there. The irony is not becoming.

Re: We have nothing to fear, but fear itself.

[identity profile] sophia-sadek.livejournal.com 2010-04-28 10:42 pm (UTC)(link)
If people knew how vicious their actions truly are, they probably would refrain from doing them. I may come off as judgmental, but it is the judgmental whom I judge.

Re: We have nothing to fear, but fear itself.

[identity profile] light-over-me.livejournal.com 2010-04-29 02:50 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm not religious personally, and wasn't raised to be. I grew up seeing this very kind of judgmental bigotry from so called advocates of tolerance and acceptance, and in my opinion, it's just the same vitriol, different ideology. Also I haven't seen [livejournal.com profile] ashleymommyof2 being anything but polite in this community for far, until she was ridiculed and attacked out of the blue. If you want to advocate peace and tolerance, that includes Christians, and best to wait until someone actually does something to deserve being chastised.

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[identity profile] sophia-sadek.livejournal.com 2010-04-29 10:57 pm (UTC)(link)
My concern is her child rearing practice. I feel for those poor children. If you saw a parent thrashing a child in public, you might have more sympathy for the child than for the parent. On the other hand, you may simply stick up for the parent's rights over their ward.

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[identity profile] light-over-me.livejournal.com 2010-04-29 11:23 pm (UTC)(link)
Are you comparing raising your children to be Christians to child abuse? I think, like it or not, we all teach our children certain values that we believe in. That's pretty unavoidable, even if you don't actively teach your child your religion, they will still see you and the way that you live, and be influenced by that. What matters is how we treat our children when they are old enough to choose for themselves, and what happens when/if they make different choices later in life. I understand what you're trying to say, but I just don't see how you're making the leap to child abuse here, or how exactly she's being cruel to her children. Unless I am just missing something she said that would make you think so-but I'm just not seeing it anywhere.

Re: We have nothing to fear, but fear itself.

[identity profile] sophia-sadek.livejournal.com 2010-04-29 11:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Perhaps it is my extensive experience with cult de-programming that makes me more sensitive in this area. Some of the victims of indoctrination exhibit abuse symptoms. Once she realizes what has happened to her, the victim feels as if a whole chunk of her life has been stolen from her.