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talkpolitics2010-04-27 10:09 am
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I'm not a liberal, but if I was, I can't imagine what I would have against the Tea Party movement - so hopefully a liberal/democrat could help me out with this.
I understand the movement is made up mostly of conservatives, so wouldn't that either be a good, or at worst, neutral thing for you when elections come around?
Sure, the Tea Party isn't an official party with representatives, but when a big (or the big) election comes around, they'll most likely endorse someone (If they don't, that would fall under neutral). If the person/people they back are Republican, you saw it coming, and you'll pretty much have the same outcome there would have been if the TP never existed (again, neutral result). If the person/people they back aren't Republican, it wouldn't be taking many, if any, votes away from your side - nowhere near the number it would be taking away from Republicans (this would fall under good for you).
Or am I missing something?
I understand the movement is made up mostly of conservatives, so wouldn't that either be a good, or at worst, neutral thing for you when elections come around?
Sure, the Tea Party isn't an official party with representatives, but when a big (or the big) election comes around, they'll most likely endorse someone (If they don't, that would fall under neutral). If the person/people they back are Republican, you saw it coming, and you'll pretty much have the same outcome there would have been if the TP never existed (again, neutral result). If the person/people they back aren't Republican, it wouldn't be taking many, if any, votes away from your side - nowhere near the number it would be taking away from Republicans (this would fall under good for you).
Or am I missing something?
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All these other solutions only work so as far as they are actually implemented and enforced. As I said, I'm sure this was not choice #1. But you can only keep pushing people so far. There is drug/gang violence occurring, people are breaking the law, and the citizens of Arizona felt it was necessary to put their safety first. Don't like it? Then we need to start voting in people who actually care about the problem and make it a priority.
There are plenty of countries who do actually enforce their borders and immigration laws--I don't see why we have to be an exception. And yes, there are countries which expect you to be able to show your papers if you're caught doing something suspicious, or who will actually deport you if you're found being there illegally or breaking the law.
Also let's not jump the gun and get our panties in a twist about Nazism. Illegals here have it pretty good, you know. You know there are some countries out there who will not hesitate to put you in prison for life or execute you as a foreigner if you are caught trafficking illegal drugs within their borders. I bet those 4 Japanese citizens put to death in China recently for drug smuggling would have been better off had someone rather checked their papers and deported them.