http://oportet.livejournal.com/ ([identity profile] oportet.livejournal.com) wrote in [community profile] talkpolitics2010-04-27 10:09 am
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I'm not a liberal, but if I was, I can't imagine what I would have against the Tea Party movement - so hopefully a liberal/democrat could help me out with this.

I understand the movement is made up mostly of conservatives, so wouldn't that either be a good, or at worst, neutral thing for you when elections come around?

Sure, the Tea Party isn't an official party with representatives, but when a big (or the big) election comes around, they'll most likely endorse someone (If they don't, that would fall under neutral). If the person/people they back are Republican, you saw it coming, and you'll pretty much have the same outcome there would have been if the TP never existed (again, neutral result). If the person/people they back aren't Republican, it wouldn't be taking many, if any, votes away from your side - nowhere near the number it would be taking away from Republicans (this would fall under good for you).

Or am I missing something?

[identity profile] paft.livejournal.com 2010-04-27 05:23 pm (UTC)(link)
I answered you questions quite directly. You just didn't like the answers.

no true scotch-liberal....

[identity profile] debergerac.livejournal.com 2010-04-27 05:32 pm (UTC)(link)
no, you said they weren't relevant since they happeneed a long time ago.

and you said i was arguing in bad faith.

and you said any examples of liberal badness would just be obscure or tongue-in-cheek.


and you accused me of babbbling.

did i miss any of your usual logical fallacy debate techniques?

Re: no true scotch-liberal....

[identity profile] paft.livejournal.com 2010-04-27 05:58 pm (UTC)(link)
d: no, you said they weren't relevant since they happeneed a long time ago. and you said i was arguing in bad faith.

Yes, citing an example that you know full well is not relevant is a case of arguing in bad faith.

d: and you said any examples of liberal badness would just be obscure or tongue-in-cheek.

Yes, as unfair as it may seem to you, an obscure, tongue-in-cheeki invocation of secession among a small group of academics is not comparable to a dead-serious invocation of secession by a state governor before a cheering crowd.

d: and you accused me of babbbling.

You were.

Re: no true scotch-liberal....

[identity profile] debergerac.livejournal.com 2010-04-27 06:00 pm (UTC)(link)
paft had nothing to add.

check.

I like your brains.

[identity profile] hannahsarah.livejournal.com 2010-04-28 04:23 am (UTC)(link)
Hey, I just friended you. Feel free to add me back.

Re: I like your brains.

[identity profile] debergerac.livejournal.com 2010-04-29 07:41 pm (UTC)(link)
thanks, but friending me will do you little good since i never post anything in my journal, it's merely a vehicle for commenting.

i merely sail the stormy seas of numerous political communities ... and create tsunamis whenever possible.

Re: I like your brains.

[identity profile] hannahsarah.livejournal.com 2010-04-29 11:02 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh well, at least if someone wants to check out my profile they can see what sort of people I like! ;-)

Re: I like your brains.

[identity profile] debergerac.livejournal.com 2010-04-30 02:28 pm (UTC)(link)
more than fair enough. i've noticed your comments on several of the communities i regularly inhabit.

and as i recall, you tend to be on the pro-israel, conservative-leaning side of politics...

Re: I like your brains.

[identity profile] hannahsarah.livejournal.com 2010-04-30 05:51 pm (UTC)(link)
Very pro-Israel, Orthodox Jewish. Centrist Libertarian with a strong lean to the right. Gun owning single mom, from a gun owning conservative military family. Airforce brat, to be exact.

I'm also a Gemini and a self employed jewelry designer. ;-)

Re: I like your brains.

[identity profile] debergerac.livejournal.com 2010-04-30 10:59 pm (UTC)(link)
we have more in common than you realize. i'm also ex-usaf, non-jewish, but pro-israel, gun owner, gemini. my politcs are harder to define. i'm a fiscally consrvative, socially liberal, smaller-government kind of guy.

oh yes, and typically argumentatively confrontational online. in real life, i'm much more agreeable. i'm good enough, i'm smart enough, and gosh darn it, people like me.

Re: I like your brains.

[identity profile] hannahsarah.livejournal.com 2010-04-30 11:35 pm (UTC)(link)
LOL!

Single? ;-P

Re: I like your brains.

[identity profile] debergerac.livejournal.com 2010-05-01 12:18 am (UTC)(link)
hah. yes and no. but that's a very long, long, very long story best told after internal consumption of copious amounts of alcohol.