luzribeiro: (Holycow)
luzribeiro ([personal profile] luzribeiro) wrote in [community profile] talkpolitics2017-10-02 05:06 pm
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Oh wow.

If you think that mansplaining about "not assault weapons" and "assault weapons" in light of today's events in Las Vegas is going to be helpful in discussing the huge gun violence problem the USA has, you are the problem.

50+ dead, 400+ taken to hospitals.

Save us all the wisdom you need to share about the bullshit you believe.

This is how these guys handle everything - by dragging us out into the weeds of the mansplains rather than actually addressing the issues.

Don't be a dick.
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[personal profile] garote 2017-10-04 02:12 am (UTC)(link)
That’s so hard to believe?
Just how much time do you think everyone should spend scrutinizing the movements of everyone else?
Should every single person have a government-paid watcher following them around 24-7 to prevent stuff like this?
Or is the solution to plaster every surface in the world - private or public - with spy cameras and data-mine the shit out of all things at all times?

Personally, I don’t think we need to go either route.

Let’s pass a law with a countdown timer in it.
In ten years, no gun of any kind can be manufactured or sold in the United States that does not have the same IR dot grid 3D sensing module in it as the iPhone X. You train your gun in 20 seconds to recognize you. It’s a security feature that no sensible gun owner interested in home defense would ever refuse.

But here’s the catch. Every sensor has an RFID transponder built into it. If you enter any building - or car, or train, or airplane - with that weapon, the tag is read and everyone knows it. The one feature is inextricably linked with the other. Disable the transponder and the gun won’t fire.

Now that’s what I call a “well-regulated militia.”

No one can eliminate determined wackos with a careful plan. But we can certainly make it harder for them to do dangerous things. Like stockpile arms in a hotel.
Edited 2017-10-04 02:14 (UTC)
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[personal profile] asthfghl 2017-10-04 06:19 am (UTC)(link)
You're entering a hotel, and nobody checks you with a metal detector at the entrance. Fine, that I can understand. Not all hotels are that stringent. But staying in a hotel room and having loads of weapons inside your hotel room, and no chambermaid ever noticing? Come on! The guy must have been hoarding heavy suitcases for days, and no one noticed anything!?

But you already touched on the real issue here. There's no meaningful regulation over this "militia". None.

If you think having shootings every week is normal, by all means, go ahead and change nothing. It's your people who'll keep dying. But don't presume to persuade me that everything is just fine. I'm not stupid.
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[personal profile] garote 2017-10-04 07:32 am (UTC)(link)
Who you talkin’ to?
asthfghl: (Ауди А6 за шес' хиляди марки. Проблемче?)

[personal profile] asthfghl 2017-10-04 08:34 am (UTC)(link)
My neighbor from upstairs.

[personal profile] policraticus 2017-10-04 05:25 pm (UTC)(link)
If the weapons were inside a suitcase, how would any chambermaid not equipped with a magnetometer or gifted with Kryptonian x-ray vision, ever know? Whose business is it how many suitcases a person has?

People who claim there are no regulations on guns in the US don't know anything about US gun laws.
asthfghl: (You stupid woman!)

[personal profile] asthfghl 2017-10-04 06:52 pm (UTC)(link)
Merely insinuating that I don't know anything about US gun laws still won't make the problem go away. It's become so apparent it's visible from space.

[personal profile] policraticus 2017-10-04 09:26 pm (UTC)(link)
How do we reconcile the fact that as gun ownership in the US has increased by several orders of magnitude, murder and violent crime rates have steadily decreased to near record lows? If the problem in society is violence, and the US has always been a more violent society on almost every level, the US seems to be solving the problem with guns.
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[personal profile] asthfghl 2017-10-05 06:47 am (UTC)(link)
The explanation is that you've moved from zero regulations to some regulations. Whether those are enough, is the question here.

> the US seems to be solving the problem with guns

Oh, I can see that. Not.
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[personal profile] mahnmut 2017-10-05 06:46 am (UTC)(link)
> Whose business is it how many suitcases a person has?

That of the hotel security.
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[personal profile] mahnmut 2017-10-05 06:45 am (UTC)(link)
> Just how much time do you think everyone should spend scrutinizing the movements of everyone else?

In a hotel? About 30 seconds at the entrance. At the airport, maybe 60.
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[personal profile] garote 2017-10-06 05:05 am (UTC)(link)
Works for me.
(And on overnight flights, we can combine it and scrutinize people for 90.)