ext_6933 ([identity profile] sophia-sadek.livejournal.com) wrote in [community profile] talkpolitics2009-08-27 02:12 pm
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Rendering unto Caesar: The Origin of the Birth Control Ban

There is no evidence that Early Christians heeded the Roman ban on birth control. In fact, there are hints pointing to the practice of birth control in the early Christian literature. Apparently, the Church didn't subscribe to Roman law on the matter until it took control of imperial affairs in the fourth century.

The ban on birth control made sense for an urban population at the time. If each family did not give birth to an average of five children, the population would decline from disease and warfare. This threat to the city's power was also a threat to the Church's power. One of the crimes that heretical sects were accused of was the crime of trafficking in prophylactic herbs.

To this day, the subjects of the Vicar of Caesar are prohibited from practicing birth control, except in limited contexts such as through monasticism. It is easy to determine whether a person is slave or free by establishing whether they follow the ban or not. Do you obey the laws of Caesar, or do you conform to a higher jurisprudence?

[identity profile] underlankers.livejournal.com 2009-08-27 09:19 pm (UTC)(link)
If we lived in a state based on Civil Law I could snark that we still live under Roman law and thus there is no higher jurisprudence. Damn English and their common law. >.>

And anyone that looks at Christian history and is shocked that doctrine and practice are Earth and the Oort Cloud is in serious need of reading Christian history.

[identity profile] badlydrawnjeff.livejournal.com 2009-08-27 09:24 pm (UTC)(link)
So now you're going into incoherent religion bashing?

[identity profile] redheadrat.livejournal.com 2009-08-27 09:36 pm (UTC)(link)
oj vej

[identity profile] kgbman.livejournal.com 2009-08-27 09:44 pm (UTC)(link)
lol

[identity profile] soliloquy76.livejournal.com 2009-08-27 09:51 pm (UTC)(link)
lol wut

[identity profile] fizzyland.livejournal.com 2009-08-27 09:59 pm (UTC)(link)
I only obey the laws of Caesar when I'm making salad dressing.

[identity profile] the-rukh.livejournal.com 2009-08-27 11:05 pm (UTC)(link)
I heard a rumor somewhere that Caesar died, know anything about it?

Re: That must have been...

[identity profile] badlydrawnjeff.livejournal.com 2009-08-27 11:10 pm (UTC)(link)
No, no it wasn't.

[identity profile] lordtwinkie.livejournal.com 2009-08-27 11:32 pm (UTC)(link)
what do you mean "now"? where the hell have you been this is a frigging weekly occurrence.

[identity profile] mijopo.livejournal.com 2009-08-27 11:50 pm (UTC)(link)
I wish you'd be respectful of community members' time and interests.

[identity profile] devil-ad-vocate.livejournal.com 2009-08-27 11:59 pm (UTC)(link)
I think the ides are in favor of that.

This makes about as much sense as your posts do

[identity profile] 404.livejournal.com 2009-08-28 12:06 am (UTC)(link)
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Re: Common Law Marriage

[identity profile] underlankers.livejournal.com 2009-08-28 12:10 am (UTC)(link)
I could ask you what a common law marriage and the double standard applied to homosexuals of which marriage is only a single part have in common but you'd probably respond by mentioning an angle of a dodecahedron and Shinji Ikari being a whiny pussy bitch in the same post.

Re: That must have been...

[identity profile] underlankers.livejournal.com 2009-08-28 12:10 am (UTC)(link)
It's hardly religion-bashing to point out that at no time in Christian history have the theology and behaviors of Christendom been an equitable match.

Re: He's dead...

[identity profile] underlankers.livejournal.com 2009-08-28 12:12 am (UTC)(link)
Actually, the Pope is no Caesar. The Gens Julii died out a long time ago. And when have we done the testudo or bothered with suits of armor, Gladii, and spears that bent so that they would be a bother for shield-users in modern times?

[identity profile] dwer.livejournal.com 2009-08-28 12:38 am (UTC)(link)
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[identity profile] hunterkirk.livejournal.com 2009-08-28 01:23 am (UTC)(link)
Another anti-Christian post... I wonder why you think it belongs in this forum?

[identity profile] hunterkirk.livejournal.com 2009-08-28 01:24 am (UTC)(link)
Love the bigotry.

[identity profile] geezer-also.livejournal.com 2009-08-28 01:25 am (UTC)(link)
I'm pretty sure Sid Caesar is still alive. His biography is sitting on my pile of "in process of reading" books.

[identity profile] geezer-also.livejournal.com 2009-08-28 01:27 am (UTC)(link)
Maybe because she isn't getting enough hits on her LJ?

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