ext_6933 ([identity profile] sophia-sadek.livejournal.com) wrote in [community profile] talkpolitics2013-06-17 08:14 am
Entry tags:

The Politics of Neuromania: Quality of Life‏‏‏

As a pre-pubescent girl I learned from my mother that the Church knows nothing about divinity. I compared myself to peers whose parents were enthralled to the Church or one of its subsidiary scions. I noticed that the quality of my life had a certain aspect that was missing from the lives of those peers. The teachers at the school I attended did not whack us with a ruler or force us to sit in a corner when we got caught in one of our sinister antics. My sisters and I were not forced to listen to dull sermons on Sundays instead of exploring the world around us in joy and adventure. We did not have to wear uncomfortable clothes whose cost meant the sacrifice of more precious goods and services. We were not coerced into peddling boxes of addictive sugar cookies on an annual basis.

My peers tried to use the terror of eternal torment to convert me to their own indoctrinated servility. My mother's observations on the ignorance of the Church echoed in my mind as I weighed the costs and benefits of taking my peers seriously. Their vicious and brutal punishment for ignoring the dictates of the Church comes straight from the organization that knows nothing about divinity. Why should I invest emotional energy into a deception? It would only degrade my quality of life to the level of my peers.

There is an inverse version of Pascal's Wager that I did not comprehend until later in life. If there is no after-death experience, or if the Church is otherwise wrong about an such experience, then listening to Church leaders will hinder a person from living life to its fullest. The experience of beatitude before death is not available to those enthralled to the deception of eternal torment. The only way to transcend suffering is to ignore the advise of those who are enslaved to suffering. Pay attention to the man behind the curtain.

How can this notion be applied to the secular domain of public policy? Consider the case of Iraq. A great deal of hay was made over how much the people of Iraq suffered under the dictatorship of Saddam Hussein. The people who raised such a fuss were apologetic about the suffering caused by their own "do good" efforts at regime change. Meet the new boss: far worse than the old boss. At least the neocon slaves of eternal damnation can see themselves as having earned their wings in the pit of Hell. We can extend this analysis to the Vietnam tragedy as well. The village must be obliterated in order to save it.

Does this give you any optimism over US intervention in Korea, Iran, or Syria? Do you suspect that the people enslaved to eternal damnation stuck their noses into the Iranian elections?

Links: Lis Gabriels on public safety in Bush's Iraq. Nature article on mass kidnapping in Baghdad. Press TV interview with Gordon Duff on interference in Iranian elections.

[identity profile] mahnmut.livejournal.com 2013-06-18 07:17 am (UTC)(link)
Because brevity is the soul of wit.

[identity profile] pastorlenny.livejournal.com 2013-06-18 01:05 pm (UTC)(link)
So we don't assess the length of different types of presentations according to different standards? A brief commencement speech is the same length as a brief commercial for soap? A brief philosophy lecture is the same length as a brief wedding toast?

[identity profile] pastorlenny.livejournal.com 2013-06-18 04:23 pm (UTC)(link)
A mirror would serve what purpose?

[identity profile] rimpala.livejournal.com 2013-06-18 04:32 pm (UTC)(link)
You're naked apparently, put some clothes on Lenny!

[identity profile] pastorlenny.livejournal.com 2013-06-18 05:00 pm (UTC)(link)
I work from home. Easy access to leftovers and working naked are sort of central to the lifestyle.

[identity profile] mahnmut.livejournal.com 2013-06-18 03:47 pm (UTC)(link)
I was told by a sage that brevity is the soul of wit. They didn't deign further elaboration, and I didn't ask because... well... sages oughtn't explain 'emselves. They just know things.

[identity profile] mahnmut.livejournal.com 2013-06-18 04:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, now. Let's not be too judgmental of people's wisdom based on the places they inhabit.

[identity profile] rimpala.livejournal.com 2013-06-18 06:05 pm (UTC)(link)
bridges tend to have easier access then, say, a wizard tower or the peaks of the Himalayas

I like sages who are piratical-minded myself.

[identity profile] mahnmut.livejournal.com 2013-06-18 09:13 pm (UTC)(link)
Depends on the particular bridge. There are some that start from somewhere and end in the middle of nowhere.

Image

(no subject)

[identity profile] mahnmut.livejournal.com - 2013-06-19 16:19 (UTC) - Expand

(no subject)

[identity profile] rimpala.livejournal.com - 2013-06-19 19:54 (UTC) - Expand

[identity profile] pastorlenny.livejournal.com 2013-06-18 04:23 pm (UTC)(link)
So you're saying that a brief State of the Union address has the same word-count as a brief wedding toast. Fascinating.

[identity profile] mahnmut.livejournal.com 2013-06-18 04:54 pm (UTC)(link)
I'll have to ask the sage in order to learn more about that.

Fascinating.

It is, isn't it?

[identity profile] pastorlenny.livejournal.com 2013-06-18 05:01 pm (UTC)(link)
Let's try this again. Are you accusing me of some sort of hypocrisy because I expressed admiration for the conciseness of this post -- even though the very first time I gave a public talk about a scriptural them, I may or may not have uttered less than 300 words?

[identity profile] mahnmut.livejournal.com 2013-06-18 05:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Nope.

Now what.


(^ See? Conciseness is so awesome.)

[identity profile] pastorlenny.livejournal.com 2013-06-18 06:02 pm (UTC)(link)
So is clarity. So you had no point other than to troll?

(no subject)

[identity profile] mahnmut.livejournal.com - 2013-06-18 21:11 (UTC) - Expand

(no subject)

[identity profile] pastorlenny.livejournal.com - 2013-06-18 21:14 (UTC) - Expand

(no subject)

[identity profile] mahnmut.livejournal.com - 2013-06-18 21:36 (UTC) - Expand

(no subject)

[identity profile] pastorlenny.livejournal.com - 2013-06-18 21:38 (UTC) - Expand

(no subject)

[identity profile] mahnmut.livejournal.com - 2013-06-18 21:39 (UTC) - Expand

(no subject)

[identity profile] pastorlenny.livejournal.com - 2013-06-18 21:43 (UTC) - Expand

(no subject)

[identity profile] mahnmut.livejournal.com - 2013-06-18 21:46 (UTC) - Expand

(no subject)

[identity profile] pastorlenny.livejournal.com - 2013-06-18 23:25 (UTC) - Expand

(no subject)

[identity profile] pastorlenny.livejournal.com - 2013-06-20 15:45 (UTC) - Expand

[identity profile] rimpala.livejournal.com 2013-06-18 06:06 pm (UTC)(link)
I have herd some pretty long-winded wedding toasts in my time...
Edited 2013-06-18 18:06 (UTC)

[identity profile] rimpala.livejournal.com 2013-06-18 06:07 pm (UTC)(link)
HEARD

I am terrible today

[identity profile] pastorlenny.livejournal.com 2013-06-18 07:05 pm (UTC)(link)
A ten-minute wedding toast is long-winded. A ten-minute sermon is a model of brevity. Context, context.

[identity profile] rimpala.livejournal.com 2013-06-18 09:01 pm (UTC)(link)
Lets just say that dancing and toasts are inversely related at a wedding.

I been to one where, due to the couple being ultra-religious, there was no dancing and no alcohol. Those had some long toasts lol...

(no subject)

[identity profile] pastorlenny.livejournal.com - 2013-06-19 13:44 (UTC) - Expand

(no subject)

[identity profile] rimpala.livejournal.com - 2013-06-19 19:57 (UTC) - Expand

(no subject)

[identity profile] rimpala.livejournal.com - 2013-06-19 19:59 (UTC) - Expand

(no subject)

[identity profile] rimpala.livejournal.com - 2013-06-20 16:13 (UTC) - Expand

(no subject)

[identity profile] rimpala.livejournal.com - 2013-06-20 21:49 (UTC) - Expand