ext_6933 ([identity profile] sophia-sadek.livejournal.com) wrote in [community profile] talkpolitics2013-03-25 08:12 am
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Profiles in Non-Leadership: An Update on the Everett Basham Case‏

Remember that guy who allegedly threatened a state senator in California? The email that he supposedly sent has been released. Some of the early impressions that I had deserve correction. For one thing, the email is not concerned with legislation banning a gun part. The threat refers to the banning of AR-15 rifles (the civilian counterpart of the military M-16). The threat had nothing to do with the explosives that the suspect had at his house. It was restricted to the use of a sniper rifle to kill the senator.

The release of the email was not accompanied by any information on how the authorities tied the email to the suspect. For all we know the connection could be a ruse to shake up Basham into cooperating with the authorities on other matters. It is also possible that Basham really did send the email but that the connection was obtained without the proper search authorization. For example, it could have been the result of NSA surveillance of domestic internet traffic. If so the authorities might use the threat of trial to extract a plea agreement from Basham. (It goes without saying that a plea agreement would relieve Basham of the prospect of serving a few years as a biker babe at the state's expense.)

Some of the blogosphere comments on the case are interesting. One individual claimed that Basham is psychotic because he supposedly claimed to be someone he was not. By that standard anyone who claims that someone is psychotic must be psychotic since they are professing to be qualified to make such an evaluation. Even a trained psychologist would refrain from judgement in such a situation since they have neither experience with the individual nor do they have proof that the email was actually sent by the suspect.

If it turns out that the state has a valid case against Basham, do you see him as a serious threat to the senator? What kind of plea agreement do you expect to result? Do you foresee Basham as being permanently denied the right to arm bears?

Links: Basham's hometown newspaper on the release of the email. A blog article on the story. Previous posting on Talk Politics.

[identity profile] htpcl.livejournal.com 2013-03-25 03:22 pm (UTC)(link)
> Do you foresee Basham as being permanently denied the right to arm bears?

I certainly wouldn't want that to happen - arming bears would've been so hilarious!

[identity profile] luzribeiro.livejournal.com 2013-03-25 03:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Probably yes, but I'm not sure Caesar would approve.

[identity profile] policraticus.livejournal.com 2013-03-25 03:47 pm (UTC)(link)
If it turns out that the state has a valid case against Basham, do you see him as a serious threat to the senator?

If he is guilty of illegally possessing firearms and threatening murder, etc. that is enough to throw him in jail, IMO. Whether or not he was ever some kind of ontological threat is beside the point. The threat is enough, though.

What kind of plea agreement do you expect to result?

If he pleads guilty, he should plead to a felony charge. But who knows with plea deals. They are all over the place.

Do you foresee Basham as being permanently denied the right to arm bears?

If he is convicted of a felony? Sure. Just like he'd be denied the right to liberty for a period of time. Just like every other felon, he'd forfeit any number of rights. Felonies are band, mmmmkay?

[identity profile] luzribeiro.livejournal.com 2013-03-25 03:55 pm (UTC)(link)
Felonies are band

A black-metal or a gothic one?

[identity profile] policraticus.livejournal.com 2013-03-25 04:01 pm (UTC)(link)
Gah.

[identity profile] policraticus.livejournal.com 2013-03-25 04:32 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't know enough about the law to say anything. I'd find it hard to believe a misdemeanor plea would satisfy a prosecutor, but anything is possible.

[identity profile] fizzyland.livejournal.com 2013-03-25 04:08 pm (UTC)(link)
Sweet buttery Jesus, I've slept through another Monday again, haven't I?

[identity profile] ddstory.livejournal.com 2013-03-25 05:04 pm (UTC)(link)
TIME TRAVEL FTW!!!

[identity profile] kylinrouge.livejournal.com 2013-03-25 07:07 pm (UTC)(link)
Maybe time is contracting.

[identity profile] rimpala.livejournal.com 2013-03-26 06:18 pm (UTC)(link)
Elder gods have no time for Mondays

[identity profile] dwer.livejournal.com 2013-03-25 05:33 pm (UTC)(link)
One individual claimed that Basham is psychotic because he supposedly claimed to be someone he was not. By that standard anyone who claims that someone is psychotic must be psychotic since they are professing to be qualified to make such an evaluation. Even a trained psychologist would refrain from judgement in such a situation since they have neither experience with the individual nor do they have proof that the email was actually sent by the suspect.

Uh... no.

[identity profile] underlankers.livejournal.com 2013-03-25 06:50 pm (UTC)(link)
Huh? What's an Everett Basham and why do I care?

[identity profile] kylinrouge.livejournal.com 2013-03-25 07:08 pm (UTC)(link)
Some guy threatens a senator.

Goes to jail.

What's the discussion exactly?

[identity profile] policraticus.livejournal.com 2013-03-25 08:28 pm (UTC)(link)
Caesar!

Edited 2013-03-25 20:32 (UTC)

[identity profile] underlankers.livejournal.com 2013-03-25 09:21 pm (UTC)(link)
Seize her? What's she done? ;)

[identity profile] kylinrouge.livejournal.com 2013-03-26 09:40 pm (UTC)(link)
If the only variant of discussion can be had by being mental, maybe we could avoid the tropic altogether.

[identity profile] kylinrouge.livejournal.com 2013-03-30 09:21 am (UTC)(link)
'mental' is British slang for crazy. Which makes your response hilarious.

[identity profile] squidb0i.livejournal.com 2013-03-26 01:54 am (UTC)(link)
Threatening to snipe an elected official (or anyone else) simply isn't something you do.
They should investigate thoroughly and if he's deemed a credible threat he should be penalized and/or watched as appropriate.

Which reminds me: Is Ted Nugent dead or in jail yet?