ext_209521 ([identity profile] kinvore.livejournal.com) wrote in [community profile] talkpolitics2012-11-07 01:16 pm
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What the election means

This was about more than Obama's victory. Several Tea Party extremists were also defeated. Todd Akin, Allen West, Joe Walsh (not of Eagles fame hehe), Richard Mourdock, and others were among them. While Democrats made gains in the House, the GOP still holds the majority.

The question is will this end GOP stonewalling in Congress? It would be nice if the House could pass something (aside from a repeal of Obamacare that has no chance of becoming law). It would be nice if the Senate would stop filibustering everything that Obama proposes. If the GOP continues their obstruction tactics, how will it affect them in 2014?

[identity profile] badlydrawnjeff.livejournal.com 2012-11-07 10:36 pm (UTC)(link)
The Senate rules are the Senate rules. Argue against reality at your own peril.

[identity profile] telemann.livejournal.com 2012-11-08 12:34 am (UTC)(link)
Why not? You do it ALL the time :-)

Harry Reid's Uphill Battle.

[identity profile] a-new-machine.livejournal.com 2012-11-08 01:58 am (UTC)(link)
Do you not understand the mechanics of the "nuclear option," or what? I've seen you raise this point about a half-dozen times and never tell me why it wouldn't work.

[identity profile] badlydrawnjeff.livejournal.com 2012-11-08 02:05 am (UTC)(link)
I understand the desire to attempt it, but it's not workable - there aren't enough votes to make it stick, and it exposes the leadership to legal troubles.

[identity profile] a-new-machine.livejournal.com 2012-11-08 02:20 am (UTC)(link)
I'd love to see a judge get involved in that particular mess. Congressional rulemaking screams political question nonjusticiability. And, why would you need votes to make it stick? It requires fifty and the Vice Presidency, which they appear to have. They might not have 50 for specifically killing the filibuster, and if that's what you mean, then OK. But it appears they have the requisite number to attempt it.