http://luzribeiro.livejournal.com/ ([identity profile] luzribeiro.livejournal.com) wrote in [community profile] talkpolitics2012-05-03 11:16 pm

War on everything... but women?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzxU2fDcrp0

Daily Show: Fox Denies War On Women But Finds Wars On Just About Everything Else

O, behold! Some classic stuff from the amazing Fox News, here summarized by Stewart. The mind-bending hypocrisy and stupidity of the Fox hacks who erroneously call themselves a "news" organization.

So, according to Fox News, there's no war on women... BUT there's a war on... watch out...

Christmas...
Easter...
Fall holidays...
Halloween...
Fossil fuels...
The Constitution...
Ladies Night...
Fishermen...
Salt...
Chocolate milk...
Sugary drinks...
Food...
Spuds...
...and of course, where without it, the War on conservative Women!

Well, that at least means some women are included!

Hm, the whole "War On... Something" sort of rhetoric seems to be going over the top already. It's fucking obnoxious, hyperbolic and insulting to the intelligence of the watcher/reader/listener. Well, at least the three big social Wars in the last decades, the War on Poverty, the War on Drugs, and the War on Terror... had some clearly defined terms and clearly formulated purposes (I'm not arguing about the usefulness of their methods right now). Granted, they had some very clear examples to describe their means, actions and subsequent results. But even then, the latter one is the probably the only one among the three that comes somewhat close to warranting the use of the term "War". The rest of those War-On-s? Just catchy slogans crafted and pushed through by sensationalist "news" media seeking ratings. News at 11, eh?

To suggest that people who don't like it when things are not going exactly their way, are then carrying out a deliberate, orchestrated "war" against said things, is the ultimate example of a logic that's flawed beyond repair, as it takes the arguer's worldview and assumes it's correct in terms of the other side's motivations and intent, without even bothering to investigate what said motivations actually are, let alone making even a shy attempt to initiate a debate with the opponent on the issue. It constitutes a whole package of logical fallacies crammed into one stinky, grotesque bundle, and the stench being fanned up to no end. And then we wonder why the whole political "debate" smells like a cesspit.

[identity profile] devil-ad-vocate.livejournal.com 2012-05-03 08:32 pm (UTC)(link)
How come Fox News doesn't report on how Rupert is doing with the British government?

[identity profile] underlankers.livejournal.com 2012-05-03 08:40 pm (UTC)(link)
You're looking for logic, reason, and consistency in a network run by Roger Ailes that claims to be fair and balanced? Unfortunately I don't think it can exist.

[identity profile] rimpala.livejournal.com 2012-05-03 08:42 pm (UTC)(link)
What was that article underlankers made about using war-related phrases in politics?
Edited 2012-05-03 20:44 (UTC)

[identity profile] rimpala.livejournal.com 2012-05-03 08:47 pm (UTC)(link)
I find it kind of weirdly ironic how they're talking about War on Halloween when most churches I've known have rejected it for it's pagan/"satanic" leanings and replaced it with fall festivals.

Of course, I also find weird a weirdly spelled word.

[identity profile] ddstory.livejournal.com 2012-05-03 08:50 pm (UTC)(link)
It should've been spelled wierd, as many posters seem to be willing to write it that way (similarly to thier; it's (its?), etc).

[identity profile] rimpala.livejournal.com 2012-05-03 08:50 pm (UTC)(link)
It's ok he's just up there ^

It's only a matter of time before he notices this and remember.

[identity profile] rimpala.livejournal.com 2012-05-03 08:52 pm (UTC)(link)
I say that all words with i and e should either have the i before the e or the e before the i, or just use e or i.

English is such a clusterfuck

Thank you Normans.

[identity profile] telemann.livejournal.com 2012-05-03 08:53 pm (UTC)(link)
They're too busy whining about Obama spiking the football over OBL.
Edited 2012-05-03 20:53 (UTC)

[identity profile] dwer.livejournal.com 2012-05-03 08:54 pm (UTC)(link)
wait, there's a war on fall holidays that aren't Hallowe'en? Do they mean Invade a land and kill the inhabitants Columbus Day? Or are they talking about Kill the natives who help you out so you don't starve Thanksgiving?

[identity profile] ddstory.livejournal.com 2012-05-03 08:54 pm (UTC)(link)
The Frenchies tend to screw things up like that, oui.

[identity profile] underlankers.livejournal.com 2012-05-03 08:56 pm (UTC)(link)
It wasn't an article, I wrote that one myself. I might note, though, that War on X was just the kind of thing I was talking about. War is a serious business that means fighting and fighting means killing. Abstract concepts and/or categories of living, breathing human beings are not appropriate subjects for a war analogy.

[identity profile] underlankers.livejournal.com 2012-05-03 08:57 pm (UTC)(link)
Ironically Plymouth Plantation was knowingly built on a charnel house that had been an Indian village. Thomas Morton, by no means a devout Puritan, wrote that it was a New-Found Golgotha.....as a good thing. The last surviving man from that village was none other than Squanto. There's enough ghoulishness in the reality of the Indian Wars to a point where you need to be a nightmare fetishist to merely read about the reality in a sustained dose.

[identity profile] underlankers.livejournal.com 2012-05-03 08:58 pm (UTC)(link)
That's what happens when you deliberately alter your own language to make its grammar fit another language without looking to see if the shoehorn even fits.

[identity profile] rimpala.livejournal.com 2012-05-03 08:59 pm (UTC)(link)
or Ladies Night

[identity profile] mahnmut.livejournal.com 2012-05-03 09:01 pm (UTC)(link)
Watch me.

[identity profile] abomvubuso.livejournal.com 2012-05-03 09:06 pm (UTC)(link)
Sach a shu mast pinch laik hel!

[identity profile] rimpala.livejournal.com 2012-05-03 09:07 pm (UTC)(link)
Well yeah but they must have had a whole lot of other things to do at the time, I guess, like knighting, fighting off the plague, finding clothes that fit Henry VIII etc. etc.

[identity profile] rimpala.livejournal.com 2012-05-03 09:09 pm (UTC)(link)
Maybe they mean drink beer drink beer drink beer do German things Oktoberfest?

[identity profile] underlankers.livejournal.com 2012-05-03 09:10 pm (UTC)(link)
See, I'm not even kidding about that. People really did try in the 17th Century when they were inventing dictionaries to modify the English grammatical system to include Latin and Greek traits even when this made no sense whatsoever. This is why English has words like Democracy instead of Rule of the Commonwealth.

http://ling.kgw.tu-berlin.de/lexicography/data/B_HIST_EU.html

It's one of the most bizarre things I've ever heard of, though IIRC Russian went through the same thing in the 19th Century to transform it into a literary language. Ironically the first lingua franca of the "civilized" world was well, French. Even in England. I'm just glad that smart people don't have to sound like ducks making love any more. ;P

[identity profile] dwer.livejournal.com 2012-05-03 09:12 pm (UTC)(link)
Don't you be fighting no war on my scantily clad women serving beer celebration Oktoberfest!

[identity profile] dwer.livejournal.com 2012-05-03 09:12 pm (UTC)(link)
if your news division had any integrity, yes.

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