ext_39051 ([identity profile] telemann.livejournal.com) wrote in [community profile] talkpolitics2012-03-02 02:39 pm

President Obama calls Sandra Fluke



Earlier this afternoon, Sandra Fluke received a personal phone call from President Obama, two days after she was called a "slut" on Rush Limbaugh's radio show. Ms Fluke attends the prestigious Georgetown University (a Jesuit school) and its president released earlier today a letter of support for Ms. Fluke, strongly critical of Mr. Limbaugh's comments, calling them "vile and misogynistic." Ms. Fluke broke the news about her call from the President during an interview on Andrea Mitchell's show. Fluke was the woman who was to testify before the Republican House Committee hearing but was denied by Darryl Issa, who instead had an all male panel testify on the subject of birth control and freedom of religion. A week later, former Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi held a non-binding hearing and asked Ms. Fluke to appear. Rush Limbaugh went on the offensive on his radio show and "...demanded that Fluke release tapes of her having sex in exchange for the contraception that she argued should be covered by employers." Fluke said the President's phone call was completely unexpected and added "What was really personal for me was that he said to tell my parents that they should be proud. And that meant a lot because Rush Limbaugh questioned whether or not my family would be proud of me. So I just appreciated that very much."







Joe Scarborough, a former conservative Republican member of the United States House of Representatives stated in an interview, he's had several conversations with what he described as "fire breathing conservatives" going into panic mode over the recent news cycles painting Republicans as opposed to women's rights and birth control when instead they are allowing President Obama off the hook, and thinks the election will be lost because of the focus on issues that don't matter, and were settled years ago.







It seems that the some in the Republican party are so intent on pushing it more to the right, at the expense of moderate and women voters, the chances of winning the Senate back (Olympia Snowe's retirement all but guarantees that her seat will go to a Democrat), or winning the White House are going to be severely crippled (this has happened already in a key state, Virginia, which has seen a significant movement by independent and women voters from Romney to President Obama because of the forced ultrasound amendment for abortions). While Rush Limbaugh doesn't speak for all conservatives obviously, he is the face for one of the largest audiences in talk radio, and the massive condemnation, he's now receiving should wake him up, or at least give him pause for making such reckless statements

[identity profile] mrbogey.livejournal.com 2012-03-03 01:32 am (UTC)(link)
Condemnation is such a balm. It eases the conscious of guilt from lack of action.

Every dollar spent ensuring women here have. Irth control would be better spent ensuring women over there don't die of actual health issues.
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[identity profile] mrbogey.livejournal.com 2012-03-03 04:02 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes, probably. I'd rather people not spend their money so frivolously so often. Maybe a bit every now and then for indulgence but people shouldn't be so focused on the physical.

[identity profile] yes-justice.livejournal.com 2012-03-04 08:43 am (UTC)(link)
people shouldn't be so focused on the physical.

Athlete versus bookworm? LOL.

And what should people be focused on?

[identity profile] underlankers.livejournal.com 2012-03-03 01:58 am (UTC)(link)
Every dollar still pissed away in a useless war in Afghanistan whose original purpose is now fulfilled (by Obama, I might add, instead of Bush's decision to go hang Saddam) could do equally much. But oddly Republicans seem addicted to the idea of a perpetual war in that Godforsaken country.

[identity profile] usekh.livejournal.com 2012-03-03 03:34 am (UTC)(link)
You have an, unsurprisingly, sadistic idea of action. Women here have to suffer and risk death or they don't care sufficiently?

[identity profile] mrbogey.livejournal.com 2012-03-03 04:04 pm (UTC)(link)
Women aren't risking death because they don't get insurance backed birth control.
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[identity profile] mrbogey.livejournal.com 2012-03-03 04:15 pm (UTC)(link)
You're trying to over simplify the issue to only suit your argument.

Birth control isn't a cure for ovarian cysts. Treatment for ovarian cysts is actually something insurance deals with.
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[identity profile] mrbogey.livejournal.com 2012-03-03 04:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Functional ovarian cysts usually don't need treatment. They usually disappear within 8 - 12 weeks without treatment.

Birth control pills (oral contraceptives) may be prescribed for 4 - 6 weeks. Longer term use may decrease the development of new ovarian cysts. Birth control pills do not decrease the size of current cysts, which often will go away on their own.

Surgery to remove the cyst or ovary may be needed to make sure there are no cancer cells. Surgery is more likely to be needed for:

Complex ovarian cysts that don't go away

Cysts that are causing symptoms and do not go away

Simple ovarian cysts that are larger than 5 - 10 centimeters

Women who are menopausal or near menopause

Types of surgery for ovarian cysts include:

Exploratory laparotomy

Pelvic laparoscopy to remove the cyst or the ovary

The doctor may recommend other treatments if a disorder, such as polycystic ovary disease, is causing the ovarian cysts.


http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmedhealth/PMH0002473/

You've educated yourself only as far as you needed to make an argument in favor of what you wanted. You're wrong however. Birth control is not a long term treatment for ovarian cysts.
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[identity profile] mrbogey.livejournal.com 2012-03-03 04:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Facts are sexists now?

Perhaps I should visit only mumbo jumbo cites that shake fig leaves at people to cure them of their ailments and not the actual government medical sites.
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[identity profile] mrbogey.livejournal.com 2012-03-03 04:38 pm (UTC)(link)
When what you're saying is different than official and peer reviewed medical sources, then yes, your knowledge is flawed.
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[identity profile] mrbogey.livejournal.com 2012-03-03 04:38 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes, birth control doesn't TREAT the cyst.

It's used to prevent complication while having a cyst. It MAY affect the size of future cysts. Surgery is recommended for complex and reoccurring cysts.

Did you read it?
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[identity profile] mrbogey.livejournal.com 2012-03-03 05:14 pm (UTC)(link)
So you just gonnA ignore that official studies show they go away on their own?

Hey, cancer patients take Tylenol during their cancer treatments. Tylenol cures cancer!!!
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[identity profile] paft.livejournal.com 2012-03-03 04:45 pm (UTC)(link)
mb: Longer term use may decrease the development of new ovarian cysts.

Is there something about the above sentence you don't understand?

[identity profile] mrbogey.livejournal.com 2012-03-03 05:19 pm (UTC)(link)
Is there a reason why you don't understand what "may" means?

If something "may" treat a future. Indigo on its not really a treatment.

Fish oil may help arterial health. Why doesn't th govt care enough to buy me my pills?!?!

[identity profile] paft.livejournal.com 2012-03-03 05:50 pm (UTC)(link)
mb: Fish oil may help arterial health. Why doesn't th govt care enough to buy me my pills?!?!

Does the use of fish oil require a doctor's prescription?

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[identity profile] usekh.livejournal.com 2012-03-03 08:22 pm (UTC)(link)
Getting pregnant is the riskiest thing that your average woman will do, and rarely comes without long-term health issues.

[identity profile] paft.livejournal.com 2012-03-03 04:32 pm (UTC)(link)
mb: Condemnation is such a balm...

As opposed to yucking it up over the murder of a young female liberal.