ext_116967 ([identity profile] musicpsych.livejournal.com) wrote in [community profile] talkpolitics2012-02-13 01:53 am
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I saw this article recently, and it reminded me of a subject I've been thinking about: What should be done about the U.S. Postal Service?

http://money.cnn.com/2012/02/09/news/economy/postal_service_loss/index.htm

NEW YORK (CNNMoney) -- The U.S. Postal Service renewed its pleas for congressional support Thursday as the floundering agency reported another massive quarterly loss.

The Postal Service announced that it sustained a net loss of $3.3 billion in the last three months of 2011, as declining mail volumes and mounting benefit costs continue to weigh on its business.

In the previous fiscal year, the Postal Service lost $5.1 billion and said its losses would have been roughly $10.6 billion if not for the passage of legislation postponing a $5.5 billion payment required to pre-fund retiree health benefits.

In a statement, the Postal Service urged the government to do away with the requirement that such benefits be funded at their current rates, and also called for greater "delivery flexibility."


There's more to the article at the source.

The article mentions some ideas, such as having mail service on only five days instead of six, slowing down next-day service, or closing some offices. It may help to increase postage costs, though I feel like there are always gripes when that happens, and people could just stock up on "Forever" stamps before a really major increase. I honestly don't know how competitive the mail costs are compared to private delivery services, though the article mentions at the end that both UPS and Fed Ex "reported strong increases in earnings and revenue in their most recent quarterly reports."

I'm hesitant about some of the ideas mentioned above. Slowing down service or reducing the quality of service would, in my opinion, make people even less likely to use it. It might be a downward spiral from there - less people use it, so service is reduced, so less people use it, so service is reduced, and so on. Should tax dollars be allocated towards keeping the Postal Service solvent? That may help, though it might be a tough sell, since the Postal Service says that a large chunk of the money needed is for employee retirement health benefits. More and more people are doing things online that they would previously do via the mail - send messages, send birthday/holiday cards, pay bills, receive magazines/books/music, etc. However, not everyone in the U.S. can do these things online or is comfortable with it. Still, is the decline of the postal service a sign that it's becoming obsolete? If it still needs to exist, in what form should it exist?

[identity profile] kylinrouge.livejournal.com 2012-02-13 08:01 am (UTC)(link)
The problem is they're doing the things that UPS and FedEx are not that take the most money to do, and the things that earn the most money are done by UPS and FedEx. Competition between a public entity that is required to have certain services vs private enterprises that only do what's the most profitable means that.. well.. this happens.

I don't know what the solution is.

P... p... privatize... it... ?

[identity profile] anfalicious.livejournal.com 2012-02-13 10:08 am (UTC)(link)
It will be worse.

[identity profile] anfalicious.livejournal.com 2012-02-13 10:09 am (UTC)(link)
Also, I've found the USPS to be the best way of getting packages from the US, far better than UPS and FedEx.

[identity profile] kylinrouge.livejournal.com 2012-02-13 10:34 am (UTC)(link)
Well then, the only other option is to make them do more stuff. For example, the postal service in France also offers banking services. Invest in the postal service, basically. I know it sounds stereotypically Keynesian though.

The Hayekian thing is to privatize it.

[identity profile] hikarugenji.livejournal.com 2012-02-13 11:17 am (UTC)(link)
Japan's post office has banking services too; right now I only have a postal savings account, not a regular bank account.

[identity profile] kylinrouge.livejournal.com 2012-02-13 04:44 pm (UTC)(link)
Maybe when America is ready to become a 1st world nation we can do these things too.

[identity profile] sandwichwarrior.livejournal.com 2012-02-13 08:04 pm (UTC)(link)
Define first world nation?

Is there a checklist I've been missing?

[identity profile] kylinrouge.livejournal.com 2012-02-13 08:07 pm (UTC)(link)
Belief in evolution would be on the checklist.

[identity profile] sandwichwarrior.livejournal.com 2012-02-13 08:36 pm (UTC)(link)
How does a nation believe in evolution?

Isn't belief a personal quality?

[identity profile] kylinrouge.livejournal.com 2012-02-14 12:53 am (UTC)(link)
% of citizens who believe in evolution. Better?

[identity profile] sandwichwarrior.livejournal.com 2012-02-14 12:58 am (UTC)(link)
What percentage?

>50%, >75%, >99.999999714286% ?

[identity profile] sandwichwarrior.livejournal.com 2012-02-16 09:21 pm (UTC)(link)
Ok, so if a country has a high standard of living, high gdp, and a decent rate of technical development and growth but >25% of the population are either creationist or just plane ingorant it's a 3rd world country?



[identity profile] gunslnger.livejournal.com 2012-02-14 09:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Who made up the checklist? You?

[identity profile] allhatnocattle.livejournal.com 2012-02-13 03:16 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree. But most/many American sellers won't use USPS no matter how much I beg them to. I suppose UPS/FedEx is great within USA, but crossing the border adds many many many dollars, where with USPS they just hand it over to Canada Post and no addition charges.