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Second amendment rights. But only for Christians and McCain voters.

This is really dumb, and I'd like to see everyone in this comm agree that the owner of this store is violating the law and discriminating unjustly. That is my view, if there is another view out there, please, share it with me.

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By all means, do provide a source which states that public schools operate in the public market, and that private schools operate in the private market.

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I don't even know how to respond to this at this point. The schools, by their very nature in description, are public and private. Separate.

The question isn't whether the schools are public or private. The question is whether your curious distinction of public/private marketplaces has any bearing on the market in which they operate.

Given that they both operate in the same marketplace, your public/private marketplace concept appears to be at the very least flawed.

The question isn't whether the schools are public or private. The question is whether your curious distinction of public/private marketplaces has any bearing on the market in which they operate.

Except the question is exactly that. You seem to believe that they operate in the same market, when, both distinctly and legally, they do not.

Given that they both operate in the same marketplace, your public/private marketplace concept appears to be at the very least flawed.

There is a private market for education, and then public education. Public education is generally not a market. Even school choice/voucher situations are mere choices between public institutions with no market to speak of due to a lack of actual competition.

You seem to believe that they operate in the same market, when, both distinctly and legally, they do not.

Really? I can send my kids to public school, but not to private? Or is it the other way around. Do tell.

Public education is generally not a market.

Sure it is. If I want my kids to go to school X, I just move into that school district.

Really? I can send my kids to public school, but not to private? Or is it the other way around. Do tell.

That's correct. A private school may turn you down for any number of reasons, while a public school generally cannot.

Sure it is. If I want my kids to go to school X, I just move into that school district.

Which means there's no market - you have one choice of school in a given district (with exceptions in some cases).

That's correct. A private school may turn you down for any number of reasons, while a public school generally cannot.

Both public and private schools frequently turn away children because of physical limitations. Likewise both public and private schools have varied application requirements.

Which means there's no market ...

On the contrary, it exactly means that there is a market.

Both public and private schools frequently turn away children because of physical limitations.

Physical limitations are different, and education is still guaranteed from a public institution.

Likewise both public and private schools have varied application requirements.

Not exactly, mostly only in the high schools and in specific localities - in general, public schools accept everyone in the district, private schools can and do discriminate.

On the contrary, it exactly means that there is a market.

So monopolies are markets?

So monopolies are markets?

Asserting that public schools have a monopoly on education when there are private schools has to be cherry on top. Whenever you're ready to point to a source outside your own imagination that public and private schools operate in different marketplaces, please do offer it up.

Asserting that public schools have a monopoly on education when there are private schools has to be cherry on top.

You misunderstood. A district has one elementary school. No other public schools exist. Where's the market?

Whenever you're ready to point to a source outside your own imagination that public and private schools operate in different marketplaces, please do offer it up.

Again, the sole existence of "public" schools and "private" schools is all the source we need here. That you still can't offer anything in opposition is further evidence.

Again, the sole existence of "public" schools and "private" schools is all the source we need here.

Given that you appear to the only person that agrees with this statement, we'll call the issue settled.

Because, after all, being alone = being wrong.

Great job defending yourself. Settled it is!

When it comes to defining concepts, it turns out that yes, being the only one who defines something that way does make you wrong.

As a simple show of faith, that I'm not the only one who views the education market as a whole, here are a couple of links which corroborate this view:

http://www.edweek.org/advertise/education-market-glance.php
http://www.cato.org/pub_display.php?pub_id=6851

How funny.

Your EdWeek link is about the education materials market. Of course there's a market in educational materials.

The Cato link? I'll quote: "One of the least surprising findings of the Cato Education Market Index is that no U.S. state currently has anything resembling a free education marketplace."

I never suggested that there was a free education marketplace. I said that public and private schools operate in the same marketplace.

You've asserted as such, yes. I'm still waiting for you to show how.

You've asserted as such, yes. I'm still waiting for you to show how.

Read the cato paper.

I'll likewise note that you've found nothing which conforms to your idea that there are separate public and a private markets for education.

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