ext_97971 ([identity profile] enders-shadow.livejournal.com) wrote in [community profile] talkpolitics2011-10-30 11:40 am

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http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/313613

Second amendment rights. But only for Christians and McCain voters.

This is really dumb, and I'd like to see everyone in this comm agree that the owner of this store is violating the law and discriminating unjustly. That is my view, if there is another view out there, please, share it with me.

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[identity profile] underlankers.livejournal.com 2011-10-30 07:28 pm (UTC)(link)
If someone kills a man because he's black or gay that is discrimination. It's a murder specifically for that reason. I'm sure again that this is a foreign concept to people whose political representatives will claim that the Matthew Shepherd murder was a hoax but hey.

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[identity profile] 404.livejournal.com 2011-10-30 07:30 pm (UTC)(link)
To repeat:

Your reply















The point

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[identity profile] underlankers.livejournal.com 2011-10-30 07:33 pm (UTC)(link)
Unless you're willing to admit that you don't consider hate crimes discrimination, there's one of us here willfully missing the point and I ain't that one.

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[identity profile] 404.livejournal.com 2011-10-30 07:34 pm (UTC)(link)
What does any of that have to do with the OP?

Zilch, except in your mind.

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[identity profile] underlankers.livejournal.com 2011-10-30 07:36 pm (UTC)(link)
The fuck? I used this to disprove the overly simplistic completely deaf to reality comment that personal discrimination is not a problem by giving examples where it very much is one. It was not about the OP, it was a reply to that one comment.

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[identity profile] 404.livejournal.com 2011-10-30 07:38 pm (UTC)(link)
Do you engage in personal discrimination? Congrats, you are the same as the guy who killed James Bird.

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[identity profile] underlankers.livejournal.com 2011-10-30 07:42 pm (UTC)(link)
OK, when he said that personal discrimination is not a problem, and I used hate crimes to show instances where it was, where did any of this have anything of what offended you so much that you're consistently copy-pasting the same irrelevant responses that thus far mulishly refuse to acknowledge the point I'm making? What was it that I said that brought out this reaction? That hate crimes are individual discrimination? If that is what offends you, what precisely in the statement that murdering people for reasons of hate is discrimination is it that gets this reaction?

Why, in other words, did a simple statement provoke yet another round of you making one-liner or two-liner comments that have yet to address what I've actually said when I figured nobody would remotely defend hate crimes?

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[identity profile] 404.livejournal.com 2011-10-30 07:44 pm (UTC)(link)
I hate that you wear a Saints jersey since I am a Falcons fan. I beat you. Bingo: hate crime.

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[identity profile] underlankers.livejournal.com 2011-10-30 07:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Sigh, one more time before I really lose my temper, for those who think I comment when angry and don't know what happens when I really do. White guys drag a black guy to death behind a truck because he's black. This is discrimination by individuals, not by the state, yes or no?

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[identity profile] 404.livejournal.com 2011-10-30 07:48 pm (UTC)(link)
So he's discriminating because he chose a black guy to drag to his death? He should have drug a white guy while he was at it, you know, to show he was did not discriminate.

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[identity profile] underlankers.livejournal.com 2011-10-30 07:51 pm (UTC)(link)
God fucking damn it, I keep asking you a simple question and you keep consistently refusing to answer a single, goddamn, simple question that has no tricks involved, it's just one question about people fucking murdering someone. Will you either shut the fucking hell up and get the fuck out of this comment thread or answer the goddamn question instead of gallivating like a little pissant about people fucking murdering someone? I'm trying to argue in motherfucking good faith, you refuse yet again to actually do this when it's a comment thread and you're responding to me.

You have never in this particular thread addressed any of the points I've made, you've consistently answered everything but the points I've made, so I'm going to tell you to fuck off.

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[identity profile] 404.livejournal.com 2011-10-30 07:55 pm (UTC)(link)
Ok.

You should probably turn off your computer before you get banned from T_P.

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[identity profile] underlankers.livejournal.com 2011-10-30 07:59 pm (UTC)(link)
I have asked you again and again the simple specific question of whether or not a hate crime is or is not murder, and thus far the only answers I've gotten are "Point







You"

and "I'm going to talk about something completely different in this comment and refuse to answer or acknowledge your question."

I kept asking, you kept refusing to answer, and I warned that I was getting angry at the continued refusal, and it kept continuing. Go. Fuck. Yourself.

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[identity profile] 404.livejournal.com 2011-10-30 08:04 pm (UTC)(link)
You don't have a right for the answer you are looking for.

You don't have the right to curse someone out because you don't get it.

You have the right to turn off the computer and go outside.

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[identity profile] underlankers.livejournal.com 2011-10-30 08:08 pm (UTC)(link)
For fuck's sake, I'm asking whether murdering someone on grounds of prejudice is or isn't discrimination, which you won't answer. I'm tired of banging my head against the brick wall of your inability to answer a direct question when it concerns something like this. I've kept asking you, I will keep asking you.

Is murder on grounds of prejudice individual discrimination, yes or no?

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[identity profile] mahnmut.livejournal.com 2011-10-30 08:13 pm (UTC)(link)
That's it. Fuck this discussion.

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[identity profile] mahnmut.livejournal.com 2011-10-30 08:12 pm (UTC)(link)
Same question (http://talk-politics.livejournal.com/1208177.html?thread=95954289#t95954289) to you, too.

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[identity profile] mahnmut.livejournal.com 2011-10-30 08:11 pm (UTC)(link)
What's going on with people these days? Are there extra Sun flares or what?

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[identity profile] 404.livejournal.com 2011-10-30 08:13 pm (UTC)(link)
No NBA going on right now. It makes people on edge.

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[identity profile] underlankers.livejournal.com 2011-10-30 07:53 pm (UTC)(link)
And yes, when someone drags a black guy behind a truck to death because he's black, that's discrimination. Now, either stop defending these sonosobitches and show yourself either able or willing to acknowledge I'm actually making points or fuck off and go fuck yourself. I've asked you again and again to do this politely, now I'm pissed off at this happening yet again.