http://luzribeiro.livejournal.com/ ([identity profile] luzribeiro.livejournal.com) wrote in [community profile] talkpolitics2011-09-06 05:17 pm
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When politics messes with beauty

The Miss Universe pageant that's gonna start in São Paulo on September 12 became a reason for strained relations between Serbia and Kosovo. Just when things between these two started to look somewhat quiet, a picture of Miss Serbia and Miss Kosovo caused an uproar.

http://www.foxcrawl.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/Aferdita-Dreshaj-Anja-Saranovic-300x224.jpg

It all began when during the rehearsals for the contest and between the time spent in the hairdresser's saloon, the gym sessions and the charity events, the two beauties found some time to make friends and even have a picture together. Then Miss Kosovo placed the pic on her Facebook wall. OH THE HORRORS!!!

The backlash came almost instantaneously. Both girls were accused of national treason. The Kosovars reminded the 25 year old Aferdita Dreshaj about the bloodshed in Kosovo caused by the Serbs. But she refuses to get defensive and is stubbornly keeping the photo on her FB.

In turn, the Serbs accused the 21 year old Anja Saranovic that by posing for a pic next to Miss Kosovo, she's officially recognizing the independence of the former Serbian province. This forced Anja to make a statement where she emphasized that she still considers Kosovo "an inseparable part of her fatherland", and she even called Kosovo "the Serbian Jerusalem".

Whether she believes what she said, we may never learn. But we've seen yet another example of politics messing up with people's lives and politicizing non-political events, and pulling out the worst side of people. It reminds me of the story about the Montagues and the Capulets, where the grudges between the two warring families caused the death of the two kids who fell in love, Romeo and Juliet. Will peace ever be achieved in the minds and hearts of people, if even they have to wait a bit more after achieving it on paper? One can only hope. Time heals wounds, but how much time will be needed?

[identity profile] underlankers.livejournal.com 2011-09-06 04:34 pm (UTC)(link)
*coughBayofPigscough*

I think that the history of the US Army's misadventures in the Caribbean, like our decades-long occupation of Haiti, does not say what you think it says.

[identity profile] 404.livejournal.com 2011-09-06 04:35 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes, I didn't feel like listing all of the US adventures in the Caribbean, but ethnic cleansing was not one thing you can pin on us.

[identity profile] underlankers.livejournal.com 2011-09-06 04:39 pm (UTC)(link)
but ethnic cleansing was not one thing you can pin on us.

^I don't think the Cherokee, Chickasaw, Choctaw, Seminoles, and Creeks would have agreed with this notion. Nor would the survivors of Indians in the North who got booted west, like the Dakota/Nakota/Lakota.

[identity profile] 404.livejournal.com 2011-09-06 04:41 pm (UTC)(link)
No one can defend the Indian policies, but you SPECIFICALLY cited the US interventions in the Caribbean, then you jump to the indians when someone calls you on it.

[identity profile] underlankers.livejournal.com 2011-09-06 04:42 pm (UTC)(link)
Erm, no, that comment was in reference to saying that we never invaded any Caribbean Islands. I pointed out just one case where we not only invaded but we stayed for several decades and made their problems worse. But hey, it's not me who can't remember who said what in response to what when.

[identity profile] underlankers.livejournal.com 2011-09-06 06:11 pm (UTC)(link)
This was a Who's On First incident more than a Kindergarten one. I was responding to one part of his comment, he thought I was responding to another. That was my fault.

Re: Underlankers maybe?

[identity profile] sandwichwarrior.livejournal.com 2011-09-08 12:02 am (UTC)(link)
You to huh?

Nope, 'tis this one where Internet arguments are concerned:

[identity profile] underlankers.livejournal.com 2011-09-08 07:26 pm (UTC)(link)
Image

[identity profile] dv8nation.livejournal.com 2011-09-06 10:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Right now I bet Haiti wishes we'd stuck around.

[identity profile] underlankers.livejournal.com 2011-09-07 12:39 am (UTC)(link)
We occupied it for decades and it wasn't any better off in the 1930s than it was in the 1910s.

[identity profile] dv8nation.livejournal.com 2011-09-07 03:57 am (UTC)(link)
The key word was "now", Lankers. We tend to fix up places that are part of the US that get trashed by earthquakes.