That's a pretty good topic, because most your comments completely disagree with you.
"If you want to sell National Health-Care to an Economic-Conservative drop the sob-story about "how billy needs this operation but the greedy HMO turned him down." and start talking about how you're going to pay for it."
Yeah, I have tried that. The response is generally, "Oh, yeah, sure." ...dude, it says this is how it works HERE. "Yeah, it says that but that's not how it's going to work." Ok, so how does it work? "IT DOESN'T!" OH. Right. I forgot. It's all lies. This Congressional report on exactly how it impacts our district, this forecast that it cuts the deficit, these figures over here that show the amount of waste that will be eliminated. LIES. ALL LIES.
Actually, last time I argued it with a super-conservative (who, mind you, is only thus because she's a Christian and was told you have to be both) I was told that she hated liberals. When I said that was a rather un-Christian thing to say and I was disappointed, I was then attacked for being an atheist with no respect for religion. Then it went into how everything I was posting was wrong, "And I don't care what you say," was the final post I received before being ignored. - lux_angelis
meus_ovatio's reply is the best: Eh? We pay for it with taxes. Taxes are bad. Taxes are theft even. End of discussion.
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In short, some people can't be reasoned with. And the question you posit of how you are going to pay for it proves it, because the answer is clearly taxation, yet the same people you claim are rational will assert that taxation is theft, and there's no arguing with them. That's what they will think for the rest of time. That the Founding Fathers cackled and rubbed their hands together when they put in the right to tax in the Constitution.
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"If you want to sell National Health-Care to an Economic-Conservative drop the sob-story about "how billy needs this operation but the greedy HMO turned him down." and start talking about how you're going to pay for it."
Yeah, I have tried that. The response is generally, "Oh, yeah, sure." ...dude, it says this is how it works HERE. "Yeah, it says that but that's not how it's going to work." Ok, so how does it work? "IT DOESN'T!" OH. Right. I forgot. It's all lies. This Congressional report on exactly how it impacts our district, this forecast that it cuts the deficit, these figures over here that show the amount of waste that will be eliminated. LIES. ALL LIES.
Actually, last time I argued it with a super-conservative (who, mind you, is only thus because she's a Christian and was told you have to be both) I was told that she hated liberals. When I said that was a rather un-Christian thing to say and I was disappointed, I was then attacked for being an atheist with no respect for religion. Then it went into how everything I was posting was wrong, "And I don't care what you say," was the final post I received before being ignored. - lux_angelis
meus_ovatio's reply is the best: Eh? We pay for it with taxes. Taxes are bad. Taxes are theft even. End of discussion.
sputtersputtersputter
In short, some people can't be reasoned with. And the question you posit of how you are going to pay for it proves it, because the answer is clearly taxation, yet the same people you claim are rational will assert that taxation is theft, and there's no arguing with them. That's what they will think for the rest of time. That the Founding Fathers cackled and rubbed their hands together when they put in the right to tax in the Constitution.