ext_42737 ([identity profile] mintogrubb.livejournal.com) wrote in [community profile] talkpolitics 2011-06-15 03:17 pm (UTC)

I think men make out just fine under a patriarchal society. when I was 19, I got thrown out onto the street. i was told on wednesday that i had to be out by friday, because my dad did not like his 19 yr old son intervening to prevent him hitting his wife. I have been in and out of therapy for PTSD for many years - and I don't call this ' doing fine under the patriachy', thanks.

I will say that rigidly assigned gender roles harm men.
well, it is a start, I guess.

But like I said, I got abandoned by my dad when i was born and society never helped my mother take care of me even though she wanted to - over the years, Ii got taken into care, was sexually abused, physically abused, emotionally abused...
And you want to say you are not sure that patriarchy hurts men ?
I think I can trace most of what happened back to this notion of what society thought at the time, and most of it sucked and still does.

Doubtless, there are guys like Dubya Bush who just fine under the present system, but the fact is he is rich, and white, and well connected. take all that away from him and lets see how good the system looks after men who are black, or working class, for instance.

Ii guess you will come back with the argument that women who are bklack and working class will still be worse off. well, I did not ordain it thus, and I still say I back the Tobin tax, among other measures.

Yes, the patriarchy both harms and hurts other people more than it has hurt and harmed me - this does not negate the fact that I myself have been hurt and harmed by it.

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