But she didn't make that distinction did she? To be honest, I don't think that Feminists back then would introduce themselves as ' 2nd Wave Feminists' at parties, do you?
But I can certainly understand the anger and hatred behind many of the 2nd wavers at the time.
Me too, but I disagree on the solutions that many proposed.
Maybe it is because I'm a man, but I sensed that the whole thing about gender roles in our society at the time was fatally flawed.
I mean, my dad was allowed credit on his own name, in spite of the fact that he was a feckless drunk- whereas my mother was not allowed credit at all, on account of her being a woman.
And a woman who went out to work got less money for the same hours on the same job as a man. hhow was she supposed to look after her kid like that when her husband had run out on her?
Seriously, changes in legislation needed making, and men could have, indeed, *should* have been at the front in the union and the workplace, in the political parties and the voluntary organisations, working to make that happen.
As you said yourself in a recent entry on this community 'men should not apologise for being men'. But the minute a guy steps up and criticises the patriarchy himself... well, where exactly does any support come from?
I don't agree with Pizzey entirely, any more than I totally accept Florence Nightingale as a flawless heroic figure - even so, I get that they both made serious contributions to the general wellbeing of society and on balance were agents of progress.
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To be honest, I don't think that Feminists back then would introduce themselves as ' 2nd Wave Feminists' at parties, do you?
But I can certainly understand the anger and hatred behind many of the 2nd wavers at the time.
Me too, but I disagree on the solutions that many proposed.
Maybe it is because I'm a man, but I sensed that the whole thing about gender roles in our society at the time was fatally flawed.
I mean, my dad was allowed credit on his own name, in spite of the fact that he was a feckless drunk- whereas my mother was not allowed credit at all, on account of her being a woman.
And a woman who went out to work got less money for the same hours on the same job as a man. hhow was she supposed to look after her kid like that when her husband had run out on her?
Seriously, changes in legislation needed making, and men could have, indeed, *should* have been at the front in the union and the workplace, in the political parties and the voluntary organisations, working to make that happen.
As you said yourself in a recent entry on this community 'men should not apologise for being men'. But the minute a guy steps up and criticises the patriarchy himself... well, where exactly does any support come from?
I don't agree with Pizzey entirely, any more than I totally accept Florence Nightingale as a flawless heroic figure - even so, I get that they both made serious contributions to the general wellbeing of society and on balance were agents of progress.