ext_6933 ([identity profile] sophia-sadek.livejournal.com) wrote in [community profile] talkpolitics2011-06-10 10:23 am
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Atheism as Faith

Back in the day, a guy named Plutarch wrote an essay comparing atheism with superstition. In his estimation, superstition is worse than atheism because it puts divinity in a negative light. Of course, the school of thought to which Plutarch belonged did not view jealousy as a divine attribute. The jealous gods were not part of the higher pantheon. This perception of divinity is shared with Buddhism which depicts the jealous gods at a level below the higher gods.

One of my favorite ways to challenge the ignorant is to ask them where they got the idea that there is only one deity. They often point to a biblical passage that fails to support their assertion. That passage does not assert the non-existence of other gods, but instead affirms their existence. The jealous deity seeks to enslave people into his cult at the expense of a higher order understanding.

Which individual has greater faith: the one who is suckered into a cult of jealousy or the one who refuses to pledge allegiance to any of the gods? From where Plutarch sits, the atheist seems the more judicious of the two and hence the one closer to a sublime life path. Those who fail to become seduced into the luxury of ignorance are more likely to follow the path less traveled. The atheist is freer to bond with the eternal than is the religious bigot who has become immersed in a quagmire of primitive precepts.

What does this have to do with public policy? It promotes secularism as a spiritual enabler rather than as a negation of faith. It contradicts the crippling dogma of those who seek to put superstitious supplications back into public schools.

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[identity profile] anosognosia.livejournal.com 2011-06-10 09:27 pm (UTC)(link)
"Not always."

As noted there, we have no good reason to believe that version of the destruction of the library.

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[identity profile] htpcl.livejournal.com 2011-06-10 09:34 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm sure you don't.

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[identity profile] anosognosia.livejournal.com 2011-06-10 09:43 pm (UTC)(link)
You mean "we", surely.

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[identity profile] htpcl.livejournal.com 2011-06-10 09:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh yes my bad, you and yours.

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[identity profile] anosognosia.livejournal.com 2011-06-10 09:49 pm (UTC)(link)
No, "we" as in everyone. There is no good reason. As your own source points out.

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[identity profile] htpcl.livejournal.com 2011-06-10 10:12 pm (UTC)(link)
Point taken about the Alexandria Library. Incomplete account => proof for non-existent event.

Let's move on.

http://www.mlahanas.de/Greeks/Arts/Destruction.htm
http://listentohearts.wordpress.com/2009/05/24/early-chritstian-destruction-of-pagan-cultures/
http://www.ajaonline.org/sites/default/files/AJA1101_OSullivan.pdf
http://www.religioustolerance.org/rel_pers2.htm
http://freethinker.co.uk/2009/07/26/greek-orthodox-christians-object-to-exposure-of-their-past-acts-of-vandalism/

Something more recent?

http://www.codewit.com/worldnews/africa/591-pentecostal-christian-evangelists-destroy-ancient-artifacts-in-nigeria
http://www.hauntforum.com/showthread.php?t=3283

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[identity profile] anosognosia.livejournal.com 2011-06-10 10:14 pm (UTC)(link)
"Point taken about the Alexandria Library."

Cool.

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[identity profile] htpcl.livejournal.com 2011-06-10 10:31 pm (UTC)(link)
I know.

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[identity profile] the-rukh.livejournal.com 2011-06-10 10:00 pm (UTC)(link)
Its funny when I was making my posts I *knew* you'd show up at this segment. Like clockwork!

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[identity profile] anosognosia.livejournal.com 2011-06-10 10:06 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm flattered to learn you include me so often in your life story.

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[identity profile] the-rukh.livejournal.com 2011-06-10 10:06 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, the story of talk_politics anyways.

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[identity profile] anosognosia.livejournal.com 2011-06-10 10:07 pm (UTC)(link)
It's important to dream big.

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[identity profile] the-rukh.livejournal.com 2011-06-10 10:10 pm (UTC)(link)
A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush!

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[identity profile] telemann.livejournal.com 2011-06-11 02:31 am (UTC)(link)
LOL why is that? Is it the classical Rome thing or the Christians destroying things segment of this post that caused you to say that?