ext_39051 ([identity profile] telemann.livejournal.com) wrote in [community profile] talkpolitics2011-03-20 06:25 pm

High speed rail comes to California



California's high speed rail will start with a spur between Bakersfield and Fresno. The spur has earned some giggles from conservatives, considering how relatively small those two cities are. But this is the start of a high speed rail line that will eventually extend from San Francisco to San Diego. Federal money from the stimulus bill passed in 2010 has jump-started the project, with additional monies from Wisconsin and Ohio (the Republican governors of those states did not accept the Federal grants).












The construction will create 150,000 jobs in California, and some estimates have projected nearly 650,000 permanent jobs will be created along the rail corridor. The project will help reduce overtaxed roads in California, and will remove more than one million vehicles from the state's roads and freeways; and it will also lessen California's dependence on foreign oil by up to 12.7 million barrels per year. Estimates vary from 22 million to up to 96 million riders per year). The final cost of the entire project varies by source, but some estimates have been as high as 81 billion dollars. It's estimated as spurs are completed, profits from those lines would help finance construction costs, making it somewhat cost effective. I think the entire project is a great one, and sure it's going to be very expensive, but then-- most big projects are. The United States has been falling significantly behind on infrastructure investments for some time, we need to do something about it!

[identity profile] malasadas.livejournal.com 2011-03-21 02:40 am (UTC)(link)
Airline on time arrival estimates.

l.o.l.

When doing your estimate, calculate travel to the airport, arrival in time to make it through security and ensure any checked bag flies with you, average delays and travel from arrival airport to actual destination -- cause airports are usually well out of the way of most of the actual downtown destinations travelers are in transit to. Lord knows, arriving at BWI means quite a haul to get to D.C. proper.

[identity profile] rasilio.livejournal.com 2011-03-21 02:55 am (UTC)(link)
Yes I am aware of that, however train travel also includes several of these difficulties and even when the train station is actually in the middle of the city there is little to no guarantee that you are going to the middle of the City.

And as far as the time to get through security, and other airport delays, sure, you might be able to add as much as 2 even 3 hours to your flight time in extreme cases. The "High Speed" rail along the Eastern Corridor takes 5 hours longer than a plane in the best of cases, more typically is 7 - 8 hours longer so the extra time is simply not a factor.