There is certainly objective truth when it comes to events, history, and common usage. It is objectively true that thousands of legal voters in Florida were denied the right to vote in the 2000 election. It is objectively true that the Republican party engaged in something called "The Southern Strategy" in order to appeal to disaffected southern Democrats in the wake of the Civil Rights movement. It is objectively true that Hitler was and is regarded by contemporary observers and historians as a RIGHT winger -- not a leftist -- and anyone who actually reads history and contemporary accounts knows it. It is objectively true that sleep deprivation, stress positions, and sexual humiliation were counted as "torture" by the civilized world before the Bush administration decided they wanted to use these methods.

What I have seen repeatedly on the right are attacks on these objective truths so dishonest and blatant that they should disgust anyone who values reality. "Hitler was a leftist." "The southern strategy? What was THAT?" "Sleep deprivation isn't torture!"

Sorry, but arguing with someone who claims that Hitler was a leftist and that the belief that he was a right winger is part of some vast conspiracy of historians and journalists (including that notorious pinko, Henry Luce) is NOT the equivalent of arguing with someone over something as unprovable as the existence or nonexistence of God.