ext_48561 ([identity profile] bord-du-rasoir.livejournal.com) wrote in [community profile] talkpolitics2011-01-10 11:15 pm

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My only source for news is the Internet. Currently, most of the media outlets (websites) I'd visit in the event of a big news story have a photograph of the Arizona shooter's face on their main pages (The New York Times, Fox News, CNN, Huffington Post, Drudge Report have it up; MSNBC and NPR don't).

This leads me to ask, Does the prospect of fame incentivize mass killing / killing of famous people?

Let's say we lack empirical evidence to answer the question. Is it not enough that making criminals famous may incentivize others to commit like crimes for media outlets to consider, you know, not making criminals famous?

How do decision makers in media justify making criminals famous? A journalist's duty is to provide the public information that the public is interested in?

What I'm saying is— cover the story, just do it in a tactful manner. This makes me consider why I'm able to see the Virgina Tech shooter's face in my mind's eye, or Tim McVeigh's, or Charles Manson's. Maybe there's a parallel dimension someplace with a society that doesn't repeatedly and consistently make insane people who do big bad things famous.

I'm sure many, maybe most, will disagree with my premise, but I'm looking at the portrait of that guy right now— at his crazy Manson eyes and his smirk, and I can't help but think that he appreciates and enjoys the attention, as McVeigh did, I'm sure, and Manson did and does. So, why as a society do we all agree to reward behavior most of us do not want?

[identity profile] nevermind6794.livejournal.com 2011-01-11 04:22 am (UTC)(link)
This leads me to ask, Does the prospect of fame incentivize mass killing / killing of famous people?

Yes, although I don't think it's limited to famous people.

So, why as a society do we all agree to reward behavior most of us do not want?

A couple of thoughts on this. The first is that we do reward this behavior, with pageviews and ratings and corresponding ad dollars. Second, most of us say we don't want it, but clearly enough people do - otherwise they wouldn't watch, read, etc.

With those two established, we get come to my third thought regarding a kind of tragedy of the commons. Every news outlet could get together and decide on ground rules about how to cover this story, but every outlet has an incentive to act selfishly. Once that happens, other outlets are to some degree obligated (they are public companies beholden to shareholders' profit, after all) to cover the story similarly, with names and pictures and tweets and whatnot.

[identity profile] nevermind6794.livejournal.com 2011-01-11 04:58 am (UTC)(link)
If the ratings of Media Outlet A, B, and C go down or stay the same, you know they're going to eventually give in and do it.

I am a staunch atheist and am glad religion isn't as pervasive in our institutions as it once was, but I do wish businesses had values other than profitability.

[identity profile] msretro.livejournal.com 2011-01-11 06:16 am (UTC)(link)
Religion is not the only source of morality or ethics.

[identity profile] meus-ovatio.livejournal.com 2011-01-11 06:21 am (UTC)(link)
I get my ethics from my daily horoscopes.

[identity profile] nevermind6794.livejournal.com 2011-01-11 06:35 am (UTC)(link)
I know, but it was a common one back in the day. My point was that while I am glad religion isn't a pervasive influence to the same extent, it doesn't seem any set of values has taken its place to temper a focus on profitability.