ext_9132 ([identity profile] dv8nation.livejournal.com) wrote in [community profile] talkpolitics2010-11-28 11:45 am
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Canada Needs an Adult!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-11843792

Seems a bishop in the Orthodox church has been charged with molesting kids. Given how this sort of scandal has hurt the Catholic Church in recent years do you think the Orthodox church will react in a more open fashion or could we be looking at the tip of the iceberg in a similar but whole new scandal?

[identity profile] ironhawke.livejournal.com 2010-11-28 07:09 pm (UTC)(link)
As noted below, I didn't read for context. Given that I don't know much about Orthodox vs RCC I couldn't say much. The cynical part of me thinks that this likely is just the beginning of something much larger, but I'd like to hope for the better half of humanity. On the other side, if such a high ranking official is being charged....I wouldn't be surprised to find that there were other abuses.

[identity profile] underlankers.livejournal.com 2010-11-28 10:12 pm (UTC)(link)
Essentially the two split up due to cultural and administrative differences left over from the Roman Empire, and over the irritation of the Bishop of Rome at the decision of the Roman Emperors in the East choosing to prop up the Archbishop of Constantinople. Over time the two diverged to where Orthodoxy resembles a weird hybrid of Protestantism (not half as clerically rigid as Catholicism, vernacular services, freaky-loo mystics) with Catholicism (old as the hills and subject to all that entails).

The feud goes back all the way to the Council of Chalcedon and ultimately had its most notorious forms in the Teutonic Knights' invasion of Russia and in the Crusade of 1204.

[identity profile] htpcl.livejournal.com 2010-11-28 10:16 pm (UTC)(link)
Curiously, on these lands all Western people were known as 'the Latins'. Their demise was to a large extent facilitated by a huge defeat to the hands of Ivan Asen II: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Klokotnitsa

[identity profile] underlankers.livejournal.com 2010-11-28 10:19 pm (UTC)(link)
Not so curiously, that goes to the first point about cultural/administrative differences. Orthodoxy began in the Hellenic half of the Roman Empire which was far more multi-cultural but solidly ruled by Greek overlords, Roman Catholicism in the Latin-speaking Western Roman Empire. Both sides developed thus interesting vocabulary, with the Muslims adding Ferenji into the mix based on an attempt to render Frank into Arabic.....