ext_44913 ([identity profile] torasama.livejournal.com) wrote in [community profile] talkpolitics2009-03-17 08:34 pm
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Marriage by Any Other Name

While a rose may be a rose by any other name, the same does not hold true of marriage. Marriage is marriage. Civil unions are not equal to marriage, both in society's eyes and the law's - couples joined under a civil union do not have the same rights as a married couple. Denoting long-term, committed same-sex relations as 'lesser' opens a legal Pandora's box and provides a venue for continued discrimination, by applying a different set of rights to opposite-sex and same-sex couples.

To deny a civil marriage to a same-sex couple is blatant discrimination per the 14th Amendment. Just as the anti-interracial marriage arguement that all races had the "same right" to marry others of their own race didn't work in Loving vs. Virginia, the arguement that homosexuals have the "same right" to marry people of the opposite sex doesn't work, either.

[identity profile] underlankers.livejournal.com 2009-03-18 06:44 pm (UTC)(link)
It is in Traditional Islam and Traditional Judaism, as well as with Hinduism. But aside from those three cultures (and with Islam and Hinduism that's a very big "aside").....not really.
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[identity profile] underlankers.livejournal.com 2009-03-18 06:50 pm (UTC)(link)
True, and in the case of Judaism, it's considered very important....to Traditional (that is to say, Orthodox) Jews. In more liberals sects its importance depends on the sect and individual (Reform Judaism effectively dropping Kashrut, Masorti somewhat keeping it, Reconstructionist dropping it also....)

[identity profile] underlankers.livejournal.com 2009-03-18 07:03 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah. It's one of those things that at first glance looks clear-cut....then gets more and more complicated the more you delve into it.

[identity profile] underlankers.livejournal.com 2009-03-18 06:51 pm (UTC)(link)
Hinduism, the largest non-Abrahamic religion is very specific on the kind of meat you can eat (specifically, no beef, and vegetarianism is preferred). So....there isn't really that major of a difference....

[identity profile] underlankers.livejournal.com 2009-03-18 07:04 pm (UTC)(link)
I find Hinduism unappealing in some ways, it's very much a Pagan religion in that it's limited to a specific place and culture. If I were interested in Dharmic thought, I would have converted to Buddhism, as Buddhism is all-purposes, whereas Hinduism is the Nomezein Theos of the Indian peoples.