ext_262787 ([identity profile] abomvubuso.livejournal.com) wrote in [community profile] talkpolitics2010-07-11 07:59 pm

The burqa - a bit deeper into the issue

The neighbouring post, albeit not directly related to what i'm going to discuss here, comes quite timely i think, as i was going to look a bit deeper into the burqa issue now. There was a good analysis of the situation here recently, and it made me thinking.

See, a couple of years ago the UK politician Jack Straw scandalised the liberals with his statement that he'd like to see Muslim women's faces while they're talking to him. "I feel uneasy when talking face to face with someone whose face I cannot actually see", was his explanation. (Of course that was 4 years before he turned 180' and spoke against the burqa ban, but thats no surprise, coming from a politician).

I dont know, maybe today his words would hardly meet so much outrage, especially in Europe. And thats kinda sad to me. See, during the last few months, a clear tendency took shape in Europe, a tendency towards limiting the Islamic religious symbols, and the clothing etiquette of the orthodox Muslim women became the main target. Several countries (France, Belgium, Spain) have already adopted or are about to adopt laws barring the Muslim women from covering their heads entirely in public places. Earlier this year, the German EMP, Silvana Koch-Mehrin called for a full ban of burqas throughout the whole EU, arguing that "they're an assault on the women's rights, representing a sort of mobile prison for them".

Last month Spain became the next European country to adopt a complete ban of burqas. After a heated discussion about the "fight against religious fundamantalism", their Senate stunned everybody by voting in favour of the ban (which was already in place in some Spanish towns). That, coming from a country which historically had promoted religious fundamentalism throughout the whole Western hemisphere through several centuries... Although the decision was taken through a painfully narrow majority, it was a huge blow to the Spanish PM Zapatero who had proposed a far more moderate approach: increasing the integration efforts, mainly through education.

A month earlier, the French government passed a draft law which would ban any clothes covering the face in public places. Its about to be voted in their Parliament by the end of this month, and later in the Senate. But before it becomes valid, there's a planned 6-month "trial" period in which the Muslim women who wear niqab or burqa will be required to "voluntarily" quit this habit. The law states that women who appear in public places with covered faces will be fined and then sent to "French values" lessons (!)  It also means those women won't be allowed to attend restaurants, schools, the public transport, although thats not explicitly stated in the law (but is implied). Additionally, men who have been proven to force their wives or daughters to wear a niqab or burqa will be fined Eu 15K, or serve 1 year in jail...

There are fines and/or jail also for those who dont comply with the burqa ban in Belgium, where a similar law is already in place. Italy also took measures of this sort. Further restrictions on Muslim clothing were being discussed in Holland and Denmark (allegedly two of the most "open-minded" societies), although there still isnt such a law adopted there. And as we all know already, last year Switzerland voted on a referendum in favour of banning all further construction of minarets.

Now. Removing the lid a bit and looking under the surface of all the barking and whining around the mass media, we could ask the question: why? Why is all that happening? Some part of the predominantly US audience here might think its (still) a non-issue across the Pond, but we all know that the two shores are actually interconnected, and this wave of intolerance could pass over at any time. So it wouldnt hurt to dig a bit deeper and see what the true reasons are, shall we?

The reason why the European politicians are so actively messing with fashion and style are multi-layered. Of course the official excuse for banning both types of clothing typical for the orthodox Muslim women (burqa and niqab), is "public security".

The other side of the issue is related to what are perceived to be the "traditional European values", where covering the face is considered alien (well, at least for the last couple of centuries). "The burqa is NOT a religious symbol, its a sign of submission of the woman. I'd like to make it clear that we won't tolerate such a thing in our country" - those are words of Sarkozy. And he likes to be seen as a man who sticks by his words and turns them into actions - hence the new law. "This was a difficult decision. My thoughts are with our Muslim compatriots who have their place in the Republic and who should be respected", he said on the government meeting where the draft law was voted.

However, when we look beyond the beautiful phrases of the French president, we'll see that his actions are not caused so much by a pressing need to improve national security or preserve the traditional values; it seems its rather his desire to appeal with the far-right segment of his electorate at a time when he's in a dire need of additional support, his government's authority beginning to feel some cracks and creaks while the leftist opposition is slowly consolidating its positions after recovering from the knock-down.

Lets look at things from this perspective, then. In France, which has the largest Muslim population in Europe (well beyond 5 million), roughly just about 2,000 women regularly use the burqa or niqab and cover their heads completely. Granted, a recent research (fr) by anthropologist Dounia Bouzar which he presented to the French parliament some time ago, shows a tendency of increasing numbers of young women covering their faces, although their mothers had never followed such a tradition. 2/3 of these 2,000 women were born in France and are 2nd or 3rd generation; the remaining 1/3 are newcomers mainly from North Africa, where there isnt any such tradition of covering the face completely. The majority of the French apparently find all these facts to be rather disturbing, which is evident from the surveys that show the majority of the public indeed support some restriction on the burqa.

In Belgium, the arguments for the ban also sound very strangely: out of 600,000 Muslims in the country, there are not more than 300 women wearing a burqa on a daily basis. Moreover, putting this issue for discussion and stirring the waters with such controversial legislation right in the most inappropriate moment while the country is in a deep political crisis, practically being split into a French and a Flemish half, without a normally functioning government (for which it has been called a "non-country"), looks awkward, to put it mildly. Ironically, it seems the burqa has finally given the Belgians something to "unite" around... The Muslims are just 3% of the Belgian population, and yet the burqa question is suddenly a much more urgent issue than the soaring unemployment and the swelling internal debt, huh?

Apart from reeking of populism, such restrictions, directed at a particular religious group, could actually have the reversed effect. If anything, at least for the reason that it sends a negative message to the Muslims in Europe, whose integration has been far from effective. Its no secret that right now Europe (and not only) has a serious problem with accepting the presence of orthodox Islam in public places. Most Europeans are increasingly secular and therefore they feel uncomfortable in the presence of individuals who are demonstrating their religiousness (although, like Sarkozy pointed out, the burqa is less a religious thing and more a cultural one). This often leads to increasing xenophobic sentiments, which could bring more problems instead of solving the present ones. I wouldnt be surprised if these tendencies jump over to other corners of the world, because the main problem - integration - is present in many regions and affects many minorities (be they religious, ethnic, racial, gender, etc). Many of the Muslims i've spoken with on the question here in SA (who, ironically, appear to be enjoying much more tolerance than those in the "civilised" West), think that the whole hubbub around the burqa ban is just a diversion of the public attention from the really serious problems that those minorities are facing: integration, access to education and jobs, etc. Those are problems whose solution turns out to be much more complicated than some people in their ivory towers had been hoping for, and thats disturbing, and obviously requires some temporary venting. Because these measures are anything but a permanent solution.

Personally, i'd like to see Europe focusing more on the real problems of the minorities, including Muslims, instead of marginalising one group and putting it against the other for the purposes of the "divide and rule" principle. And this means a stricter application of the anti-discrimination laws, rather than creating ones which contradict and invalidate them. The Europeans should finally acknowledge that Muslims are part of the European cultural reality. And in their turn, Muslims should recognise that they're living in Europe and they should also do some compromises and bring themselves closer to a certain set of standards and values. As always, the truth is somewhere in the middle between the two "sides", and the solution is in reaching a compromise that would suit all sides to a satisfactory extent. But that requires efforts on both sides.

I expect that the burqa ban will certainly fail to achieve its goal - stopping discrimination against women and helping them become an integral part of modern "Western" society. A good male friend of mine who's of the large Malay community here in Cape Town (i.e. a Muslim) told me: "If you're wearing a burqa, you've already sent a clear message that you dont want to integrate, because the burqa separates you from the world. The burqa is not just a prison for the person, its a form of rejecting the outer world".

And, even if we assume most women who wear burqas are really doing that against their will rather than by their own choice, which i dont think i have the capacity to argue about, such a restriction wouldnt bring them anything positive. My friend says that "Banning the burqa is useless. The problem is not in the veil covering the head, its inside the head". Because for every woman who wears one at the moment, not being able to wear it in public would only mean she won't be able to leave home any more, which is much worse of a prison. And we could hardly expect that the ban would be an enlightening factor for her husband, either.

Unfortunately, the European politicians dont seem to have realised that they're only trying to deal with the symptoms instead of tackling the problem itself. And the biggest irony here is that they're trying to fight discrimination by means of more restriction, in which they're no better than those fundamentalist principles they're trying to defeat in the first place.

[identity profile] underlankers.livejournal.com 2010-07-11 06:27 pm (UTC)(link)
In this case it's fully justified. The idea of Europeans progressing on matters of religious tolerance is belied by 1,700 years of Jew-killins' whenever the European lords needed to distract the masses from their own incompetence. I see no reason for that to change with Islam, especially when the Neo-Fascist programs as regards Islam are becoming increasingly legitimate. The KKK remnants in the USA have not one bit of the pull that guys like Le Pen are getting out of the Islamophobia.

[identity profile] htpcl.livejournal.com 2010-07-11 07:01 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm sure it's always fully justified.

[identity profile] underlankers.livejournal.com 2010-07-11 07:02 pm (UTC)(link)
No, not always. But again, with Europeans and religions from the Middle East.....

[identity profile] htpcl.livejournal.com 2010-07-11 07:09 pm (UTC)(link)
And whenever underlankers is speaking...

[identity profile] underlankers.livejournal.com 2010-07-11 07:21 pm (UTC)(link)
I seem to be confused. Have you forgotten what happened to the few attempts by Muslims to make states for themselves in Europe? Every. Single. Time?

[identity profile] enders-shadow.livejournal.com 2010-07-11 07:22 pm (UTC)(link)
The land was already taken, c'mon now.....

[identity profile] underlankers.livejournal.com 2010-07-11 07:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, and those damned Arian Germans had it first, so if the logic that you're following here is held to Europe becomes the Greater German Empire by default. Wonder how the Israelis would like that one....

[identity profile] htpcl.livejournal.com 2010-07-11 07:25 pm (UTC)(link)
I wasn't talking about that.

[identity profile] underlankers.livejournal.com 2010-07-11 07:31 pm (UTC)(link)
I wasn't aware that things like the Chechen Wars were considered civilized in Europe. Nor that the attempted to exterminate the Bosnians were.

[identity profile] htpcl.livejournal.com 2010-07-11 07:32 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm still not talking about that. You might need to go back through the comments.