And I'll ask another question here-Marxism has created an entire methodology that encompasses all aspects of the world. It can create its own intellectuals within that methodology who while I would vehemently disagree with them I would easily say they are equally learned to me.

Islam also has its own methodology and has been deeply involved in and supportive of learning since the West went Christian and for a long time was far more humanistic than the West was and remained such until the West forcibly shoved Christianity and its science down their throats.

Is what you term science really scientific or is it the *liberal democratic* definition in which case all you're doing is cultural imperialism with a robe and a cap?