ext_306469 ([identity profile] paft.livejournal.com) wrote in [community profile] talkpolitics2010-05-08 02:17 pm
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How to Discreetly Feed The Beast

Recently, Eric Cantor provided a textbook example of how the GOP has been countenancing (and therefore encouraging) extremist rhetoric while pretending not to countenance (and therefore encourage) extremist rhetoric.

Right Wing Heritage Foundation Speech 5/4/10

Audience member at Heritage Foundation:
My question is – and this is something I personally don’t understand…. in light of what Obama has done to leave us vulnerable, to cut defense spending, to make us vulnerable to our outside enemies, to slight our allies. How…what would he have to do differently to be defined as a domestic enemy?”

(Laughter and applause from audience.)



Eric Cantor (smiling, after waiting for the claps to die down) Listen, let me respond very forthright to that. No one thinks that the president is a domestic enemy. (boos) It is important, it is important, it is important for us to remember, we have the freedom of discourse in this country. And the president’s policies, the administration’s priorities, in my opinion, do not reflect the common sense conservative traditions on which the greatness of this country was built…





Here, Cantor makes a statement that’s been demonstrated to be untrue in the seconds before he made it, and is again demonstrated to be untrue by the audience reaction after he makes it.

“No one thinks the president is a domestic enemy.”

No one? Someone just said he did -- and a bunch of other people just applauded him for it.

A “forthright response” would be to say, “No, the president is not a domestic enemy merely because we disagree with his policies.”

But Cantor just couldn't say that. He knew being that "forthright" might have gotten him booed off the stage by those "no ones" who've been incited by the inflammatory rhetoric the GOP has been banking and encouraging for twenty years.

[identity profile] dreadfulpenny81.livejournal.com 2010-05-09 01:42 am (UTC)(link)
I link to it daily from my blog. And I don't want my posts to seem like ads for thoughtcrimes. That's not why I post those essays here.

Unless people actually go to your blog and read that, they don't know it. So if someone who reads that site started posting in this comm who didn't know you link in your blog, they'd think you were copying word-for-word from there. Afterall, how many people read the blogs that belong to the people posting comments? Not everyone does.

[identity profile] headhouse.livejournal.com 2010-05-09 06:22 am (UTC)(link)
Unless people actually go to your blog and read that,

Well, that's the thing. They don't. And that's why she posts them here.

[identity profile] mrsilence.livejournal.com 2010-05-09 10:41 am (UTC)(link)
Errr..how could anyone possibly think she was plagiarising, unless they saw the original post, written by herself that she was quoting?

[identity profile] mrsilence.livejournal.com 2010-05-09 10:43 am (UTC)(link)
Or perhaps I should ask, why should she care if someone sees both entries?

[identity profile] malasadas.livejournal.com 2010-05-09 11:19 am (UTC)(link)
You are being exceedingly silly here.

This is her own "essay". Why would anyone care that she has it posted to a site none of us visit?

[identity profile] dreadfulpenny81.livejournal.com 2010-05-10 03:20 am (UTC)(link)
One of the rules of the comm is that you shouldn't just cut and paste stuff from other websites because it's just being lazy. Whether it's her posting either way shouldn't matter.
I'd have no problem with it if she didn't word it exactly as she does on the other site she posts at or if she used extra information other than what she posted in the other entry. Fact of the matter is that it's still a copy and paste job from another site and not an original entry posted by her.

[identity profile] malasadas.livejournal.com 2010-05-10 07:54 am (UTC)(link)
Whether it's her posting either way shouldn't matter.


That's absurd -- it's just cross posting her own materal.
Edited 2010-05-10 14:06 (UTC)