ext_21147 ([identity profile] futurebird.livejournal.com) wrote in [community profile] talkpolitics2010-05-06 02:19 pm
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ads sell, the moving images moves us, emotion in media...

I've noticed that most people tend to believe that political ads, or bias in news coverage can't have an effect their personal views. I even sometimes think so myself, it is comforting to imagine that no matter how slanted the coverage, no matter how disproportionally importance is given to events of little consequence, while more essential issues are never openly discussed, I can "see through all of that" -- and watch and read news stories with enough detachment to glen the bits of truth and assemble my own (presumably more correct) understanding of events.

But, in fact, this is only so much wishful thinking. Repeated exposure to ideas will cause those ideas to seem more reasonable. Political ads do influence who people vote for-- and not just because people are paying attention to the facts-- but, it's the subtext, the use of images, the feelings that the ads evoke-- these things have an impact. And maybe it is easier to assume they have an impact only on "other people" -- people who are too busy or dull and uninterested to dissect media. But, I think it's naive to assume that.

I've noticed that advertising has a big impact on me. And when I limit my exposure to advertisements I end up spending much less money. Political ideas and questions like "who to vote for" -- can certainly work in the same way.

Short of living in a cave, though, there is little to be done about it. I did stop watching TV since I felt that moving images could have more of an emotional impact and I feel more detached and objective when I read. Ever since I stopped watching TV 12 years ago, my political views began to shift and mature. When I do watch TV (on rare occasions, such as visiting home) I have trouble identifying with any of the opinions presented, this was not the case before I stopped -- I have similar trouble with print media-- thought it is easier to simply stop reading and article-- when there is some kind of news show with presumably diverse guests I'm tempted to wait for someone to voice an opinion I agree with. In most cases it's best to leave the room and not bother waiting since that opinion won't come. And with print media and the internet one can find a far more diverse collection of opinions than you would ever see on TV.

This is (one of a few dozen reasons*) why I avoid TV. Also, it is so much easier to read something I disagree with strongly than to hear it spoken. So by reading I can take in more view points and I feel the presentation of issues is less emotionally wrought.

Do you think some types of news delivery are easier to take in when trying to avoid emotional manipulation?

* I don't really think not watching TV makes you better-- in many cases I totally miss what's going on since I don't know cultural references. Nor am i more productive or anything-- the internet can be just as much of a mind numbing time suck as TV.

[identity profile] the-rukh.livejournal.com 2010-05-06 11:17 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm guessing in the context of the post 'better' would be a judgment of worth, and what she is saying is she doesn't want to judge people based on whether they watch television or not. She likes herself better for not watching it, but is specifically going out of her way to say that she's not saying that it some how raises her worth compared to other people.

[identity profile] mijopo.livejournal.com 2010-05-06 11:29 pm (UTC)(link)
" She likes herself better for not watching it..."

Yeah, things are getting a little incoherent for me here. "She likes herself better?" Not quite sure what that means. but if so, why? In what does the "liking better" inhere? What is the basis for it? People presumably like themselves better for improving themselves, which is what I assume 'better' means, and what has been denied.

[identity profile] the-rukh.livejournal.com 2010-05-06 11:42 pm (UTC)(link)
You understand the difference between 'I feel better about myself' and 'I am better than other people' right?

[identity profile] mijopo.livejournal.com 2010-05-06 11:57 pm (UTC)(link)
I understand a difference between feeling better and being better. The former is unjustified unless the latter is also the case. Still not seeing a different sense of 'better' here, just a difference in perceiving X and X actually being the case.

[identity profile] mijopo.livejournal.com 2010-05-07 12:45 am (UTC)(link)
thinking you are better than other people who don't make the same exact choices you do

Yes, people don't like to say it, but it's incoherent to deny it. If you've made a well considered choice you are saying it's the right thing to do and you're saying that it would also be the right thing to do for someone else in comparable circumstances so at least in that very limited respect you're compelled to believe that you're better than that person for making that choice. I'm with Sartre, when you choose you choose for all humankind. (Of course, that doesn't mean you can't allow the person to make the choice, or respect their choice, but you can't evade the implicit judgement as much as that abhors us)

[identity profile] mijopo.livejournal.com 2010-05-07 12:57 am (UTC)(link)
" for someone else in comparable circumstances "

[identity profile] mijopo.livejournal.com 2010-05-07 01:39 am (UTC)(link)
I disagree.

[identity profile] the-rukh.livejournal.com 2010-05-07 04:09 am (UTC)(link)
I don't think you are actually understanding it then ;) It's the difference between a relative self-perception and a relative external comparison. Its the same word, but two different things.

Anyways, I don't think it's a big enough deal to continue, so I'm going to end my comments here.